welding Ic piping questions ?
05-03-2004, 10:24 PM
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Re:welding Ic piping questions ?
about a grand for a nice 220v miller tig on ebay (new) I forget the model and ----, but I think it's ready to go arc setup too.
i spent about a grand on my 220v plasma cutter, nice ------- unit.. i regret to this day taking it back but i needed to.
i spent about a grand on my 220v plasma cutter, nice ------- unit.. i regret to this day taking it back but i needed to.
05-04-2004, 12:12 AM
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Re:welding Ic piping questions ?
Well I guess I'm going to go with the Mig that has the option for Gas.
I'll prob. do my car without gas and maybe the 240sx at my house ( which is a waste of a good SR20 IMO ), but the 3000GT VR4, mazda speed protege, VW 1.8T Golf, and honda accord that said they'd pay me to do there IC piping would prob. get the gas.
I'll prob. get the cheapest "gas optional" Mig from Harbor Freight.
I did go "a little larger than needed" when I bought my air compressor, and it really paid off when it came time to start porting turbos, manifolds, and misc metal.
Thanx for all you guys help. BTW if you've neveer seen my cars current IC piping here's a link, hehe beware, its ghetto.
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/sh...0&pagenumber=2
I'll prob. do my car without gas and maybe the 240sx at my house ( which is a waste of a good SR20 IMO ), but the 3000GT VR4, mazda speed protege, VW 1.8T Golf, and honda accord that said they'd pay me to do there IC piping would prob. get the gas.
I'll prob. get the cheapest "gas optional" Mig from Harbor Freight.
I did go "a little larger than needed" when I bought my air compressor, and it really paid off when it came time to start porting turbos, manifolds, and misc metal.
Thanx for all you guys help. BTW if you've neveer seen my cars current IC piping here's a link, hehe beware, its ghetto.
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/sh...0&pagenumber=2
05-04-2004, 12:32 AM
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Re:welding Ic piping questions ?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=55075
Less than $200... All the ones on ebay were like $350+.
I know most the time you get what you pay for, if anyone else thinks "the welds don't look clean enough" for there cars, then fine then can pay $600 for a ------- IC piping kit, hehe...
I can't imagine 15psi being strong enough to break welds, hehe, so strength really isn't an issue...
Less than $200... All the ones on ebay were like $350+.
I know most the time you get what you pay for, if anyone else thinks "the welds don't look clean enough" for there cars, then fine then can pay $600 for a ------- IC piping kit, hehe...
I can't imagine 15psi being strong enough to break welds, hehe, so strength really isn't an issue...
05-04-2004, 01:34 AM
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Re:welding Ic piping questions ?
hey man, my buddy has the 110 version of that welder, and it works ok... the gas is really just a coil of oil pressure gauge line out of the back... if you can afford it, Home Depot has a lincoln weldpak for $350 i think, and it comes with good gas line and a regulator...
05-04-2004, 02:01 AM
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Re:welding Ic piping questions ?
So mig it is.
The next thing you need to consider would be the size of the welder. If you have 220v supply, get a 220v.. you can pick a used one up cheaper and they can do 175+ amps easily.
It's all about duty cycle at this point. When I had to cut out chunks of my nice oversized frame where it meets the transmission cross member I was cursing my shitty as 20% duty cycle at 105 amps. It sucked welding for a minute or two, then having to stop welding and wait for 10 minutes cause the welder was overheated (I had the juice turned all the way up since it was thick metal). I had to make a few passes since this was a critical piece that held up that heavy ------- transmission and transfer case.
here is a pic that doesn't really give justice to the work I had to do, it's the crossmember. Keep in mind that it should be straight cut on the corners and flat at the ends.
(yeah, that's my dog chillin too)
If you plan on doing a bit of welding to thicker mild steal (1/8 to 1/4 inch) then get a mig welder that can pull at least 135 amps - or the 220v is what ya need. Otherwise, a low amperage mig will do exhaust/ic pipe all day long.
Consider some alternatives to the harbor freight/wal mart purchased outfits, you get what you pay for, and they aren't all that great. I don't see anything that is a killer deal on egay right now.. but sears has some nice units, check 'em out.
The pecking order of mig welders goes: Miller, Esab, Lincoln, Craftsman. Miller (I used to have one) & Esab are out of your price range. Lincoln is decent but can still be slightly pricy. Craftsman is actually is another brand that I can't remember, sears subs out their products like how the drills are Ryobis.
-ryan
The next thing you need to consider would be the size of the welder. If you have 220v supply, get a 220v.. you can pick a used one up cheaper and they can do 175+ amps easily.
It's all about duty cycle at this point. When I had to cut out chunks of my nice oversized frame where it meets the transmission cross member I was cursing my shitty as 20% duty cycle at 105 amps. It sucked welding for a minute or two, then having to stop welding and wait for 10 minutes cause the welder was overheated (I had the juice turned all the way up since it was thick metal). I had to make a few passes since this was a critical piece that held up that heavy ------- transmission and transfer case.
here is a pic that doesn't really give justice to the work I had to do, it's the crossmember. Keep in mind that it should be straight cut on the corners and flat at the ends.
(yeah, that's my dog chillin too)
If you plan on doing a bit of welding to thicker mild steal (1/8 to 1/4 inch) then get a mig welder that can pull at least 135 amps - or the 220v is what ya need. Otherwise, a low amperage mig will do exhaust/ic pipe all day long.
Consider some alternatives to the harbor freight/wal mart purchased outfits, you get what you pay for, and they aren't all that great. I don't see anything that is a killer deal on egay right now.. but sears has some nice units, check 'em out.
The pecking order of mig welders goes: Miller, Esab, Lincoln, Craftsman. Miller (I used to have one) & Esab are out of your price range. Lincoln is decent but can still be slightly pricy. Craftsman is actually is another brand that I can't remember, sears subs out their products like how the drills are Ryobis.
-ryan
05-04-2004, 04:29 AM
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Re:welding Ic piping questions ?
The plasma cutter in the shop at my work is esab, and all the welders are Miller, so I guess Publix didn't go cheap on there shop stuff for the warehouse mantance dudes.
Once I get profecent with a welder I'm sure the dudes at the shop will "forget they left the shop unlocked" one night ( I work nightshift ) if I really need something heavy duty weled...
Funny though... Never thought working in a warehouse for a supermarket would help my car out, hehehe...
99% of the stuff the dudes in the shop use the plasma cutter for is for there or other peoples cars, not bad for getting paid $17.50 an hour to work on forklifts and pallet jacks and get to use the shop tools !! ( Don't worry they have my application, and homemadeturbo.com is one of my references, J/K ).
Once I get profecent with a welder I'm sure the dudes at the shop will "forget they left the shop unlocked" one night ( I work nightshift ) if I really need something heavy duty weled...
Funny though... Never thought working in a warehouse for a supermarket would help my car out, hehehe...
99% of the stuff the dudes in the shop use the plasma cutter for is for there or other peoples cars, not bad for getting paid $17.50 an hour to work on forklifts and pallet jacks and get to use the shop tools !! ( Don't worry they have my application, and homemadeturbo.com is one of my references, J/K ).
05-04-2004, 09:04 PM
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Re:welding Ic piping questions ?
yeah well she was hanging out with me under the truck getting oil and ---- spilled on her. She doesn't like baths and I don't like bathing her so it works out good. She's an outside dog so maybe every 3-4 months works.
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