Water/Meth- Who uses it?
12-07-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: Water/Meth- Who uses it?
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I tried tried straight methanol before and it went really lean, so I guess I will tune for 50/50
Richen it up, I don't know what the stoich is for Methanol but I'm quasi-sure it's higher ppm than gasoline.
12-08-2007, 01:41 AM
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Re: Water/Meth- Who uses it?
Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
Gotta be careful, if you walk into the same paint store every week buying the ---- out of toluene they might call the cops on your *** thinking your running a meth lab. 
No joke.
No joke.
12-08-2007, 01:55 AM
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Re: Water/Meth- Who uses it?
wafflesincars gave me sum realy gewd advice in the Water Injection 2007 post, i will be printing the before and after water/methonal dyno comparison for all the non belivers.. wish me luck...
12-08-2007, 01:41 PM
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Re: Water/Meth- Who uses it?
stoich for meth is something like 6:1 isnt it
hence lean.
secondly, if you have 95 as the base grade in "your mystery country" then your country unlike the usa uses RON to measure its fuel. 95ron is pretty average to ---- fuel. 98 ron is decent and 102 ron is what "JDM" cars get to run on, the lucky buggers. at home we can get 91ron, 95ron, and 98ron.
98ron ~= 93aki
aki is what usa uses to measure fuel, also known (stupidly) as pump octane
aki = (ron + mon)/2
95ron ~= 90aki which is far from ideal for boost.
toluene is good ----. its similar in energy content to gas, so wont screw your afrs.
to run eth or meth, you need much bigger fuel components, pumps, lines, injectors. you will also have some issues getting the car running in cold weather if its meth and pure.
schwitzy, get a grip on what you are actually running first. then go about trying to mod it.
the american nature of the internet must have ruined the engines of quite a few ron measuring noobs over the years
"all these people on this forum can run 20psi on only 93 octane with 9:1 compression and 15 degrees advance, so i MUST be sweet with the same numbers and 95 octane gas"
bang.
hence lean.
secondly, if you have 95 as the base grade in "your mystery country" then your country unlike the usa uses RON to measure its fuel. 95ron is pretty average to ---- fuel. 98 ron is decent and 102 ron is what "JDM" cars get to run on, the lucky buggers. at home we can get 91ron, 95ron, and 98ron.
98ron ~= 93aki
aki is what usa uses to measure fuel, also known (stupidly) as pump octane
aki = (ron + mon)/2
95ron ~= 90aki which is far from ideal for boost.
toluene is good ----. its similar in energy content to gas, so wont screw your afrs.
to run eth or meth, you need much bigger fuel components, pumps, lines, injectors. you will also have some issues getting the car running in cold weather if its meth and pure.
schwitzy, get a grip on what you are actually running first. then go about trying to mod it.
the american nature of the internet must have ruined the engines of quite a few ron measuring noobs over the years
"all these people on this forum can run 20psi on only 93 octane with 9:1 compression and 15 degrees advance, so i MUST be sweet with the same numbers and 95 octane gas"
bang.
12-08-2007, 02:58 PM
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Re: Water/Meth- Who uses it?
Originally Posted by fe3tcourier
schwitzy, get a grip on what you are actually running first. then go about trying to mod it.
the american nature of the internet must have ruined the engines of quite a few ron measuring noobs over the years
"all these people on this forum can run 20psi on only 93 octane with 9:1 compression and 15 degrees advance, so i MUST be sweet with the same numbers and 95 octane gas"
bang.
the american nature of the internet must have ruined the engines of quite a few ron measuring noobs over the years
"all these people on this forum can run 20psi on only 93 octane with 9:1 compression and 15 degrees advance, so i MUST be sweet with the same numbers and 95 octane gas"
bang.
Hey man, I tried. I told him outright as clearly as possible. I ------- tried.
