twin charger
05-02-2009, 07:38 PM
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well heres the problem...outside of it being horrendously expensive....the boost supplied from the turbo will just run into the back of the blades of the supercharger thus lowering the boost output from the turbo (not to mention possibly damaging the supercharger fins).....i had this idea a while back....looked into it pretty extensively.....not a good choice haha
We never said it wont work, just that it wont work best, being better than other options, as i said it will work, has worked, and has worked well, but still other setups do theoretically yield a better output, i think its time to test it haha. But really go for it if its what you want.
05-03-2009, 01:01 AM
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i want to do a twin charger setp on my car. i want to make alot of boost and dont want any lag. so i have the supercharger for instant boost then a huge turbo top end boost so i get a 6psi s/c then take that 6psi and compress it in a turbo to compress it another 6psi will i have 12psi final or 36psi final. what do you all think
05-03-2009, 01:09 AM
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However, if you really wanna know. In elementery school some of us, apparently not you, learned simple addition. It went sorta like this:
If you have 1 bean, and Sally has 1 bean, and you rape Sally and steal her bean, how many beans do you have? Then you wrote on a piece of paper, 1 + 1, and bow chica wow wow, you've got 2. So by replacing the 1's with 6's, in accordance with your boost levels, we get 6 + 6. With a lil bow chica wow wow, we get 12. HOLY ------- APE ----.
However, you're a ------- retard, and it doesn't work that way. The amount of boost you will get is solely dependent on the most important component of a turbocharger system besides the ------- turbocharger. I don't expect you to know what that is, considering your extremely limited IQ, and extremely abundant ignorance, so here goes. A wastegate. Goddamn I should be a rocket scientist.
If you have 1 bean, and Sally has 1 bean, and you rape Sally and steal her bean, how many beans do you have? Then you wrote on a piece of paper, 1 + 1, and bow chica wow wow, you've got 2. So by replacing the 1's with 6's, in accordance with your boost levels, we get 6 + 6. With a lil bow chica wow wow, we get 12. HOLY ------- APE ----.
However, you're a ------- retard, and it doesn't work that way. The amount of boost you will get is solely dependent on the most important component of a turbocharger system besides the ------- turbocharger. I don't expect you to know what that is, considering your extremely limited IQ, and extremely abundant ignorance, so here goes. A wastegate. Goddamn I should be a rocket scientist.
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05-05-2009, 02:58 PM
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z34 your obviously an idiot and there is a clear and apperent answer to the question maybe in elemntrey school all you learned was addition but i also learned multiplication here is the equation and answer
14.7+6=20.7
20.7x2=41.1
41.1-14.7=26.7
the answer is 26.7psi. i started this thread to see what kind of retards started visiting this forum and you are obviously one of them. and obviously this forum is not salvagable anymore due to the complete over run of retarded know it all like you so on a side note go ---- yourself.
and waste gate has nothing to do with the question when i said 6psi so congratulations you have officially avoided a question by spouting out more bull ---- you ------- idiot
14.7+6=20.7
20.7x2=41.1
41.1-14.7=26.7
the answer is 26.7psi. i started this thread to see what kind of retards started visiting this forum and you are obviously one of them. and obviously this forum is not salvagable anymore due to the complete over run of retarded know it all like you so on a side note go ---- yourself.
and waste gate has nothing to do with the question when i said 6psi so congratulations you have officially avoided a question by spouting out more bull ---- you ------- idiot
05-05-2009, 03:44 PM
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z34 your obviously an idiot and there is a clear and apperent answer to the question maybe in elemntrey school all you learned was addition but i also learned multiplication here is the equation and answer
14.7+6=20.7
20.7x2=41.1
41.1-14.7=26.7
the answer is 26.7psi. i started this thread to see what kind of retards started visiting this forum and you are obviously one of them. and obviously this forum is not salvagable anymore due to the complete over run of retarded know it all like you so on a side note go ---- yourself.
and waste gate has nothing to do with the question when i said 6psi so congratulations you have officially avoided a question by spouting out more bull ---- you ------- idiot
14.7+6=20.7
20.7x2=41.1
41.1-14.7=26.7
the answer is 26.7psi. i started this thread to see what kind of retards started visiting this forum and you are obviously one of them. and obviously this forum is not salvagable anymore due to the complete over run of retarded know it all like you so on a side note go ---- yourself.
and waste gate has nothing to do with the question when i said 6psi so congratulations you have officially avoided a question by spouting out more bull ---- you ------- idiot
I'm not sure a SC works this way. This is why the WG issue was brought up. Lets say you are holding a 1.4PR with your turbo and you have a 1" exhaust. Step up to a 3" exhaust and with a big *** wastegate you are still holding a 1.4PR but flowing a TON more.
Same scenario with the SC, 1.4PR going through a 1" exhaust. Step up to the 3" pipe and all of a sudden you're flowing a lot more, and consequently your boost has gone down.
I don't know if that makes sense, but I believe that the SC being crank driven and positive displacement, the pressure ratio you get out if it is dependant on pulley size and what's flowing into it, and what it is flowing into rather than something you can simply set like the turbo. That is, when you put a turbo on the supercharger, I don't know that you could (easily) calculate the end result at the manifold.
I've been wrong with these ideas before. I'm not wrong about the pressure ratio though.
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05-08-2009, 11:35 PM
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z34 your obviously an idiot and there is a clear and apperent answer to the question maybe in elemntrey school all you learned was addition but i also learned multiplication here is the equation and answer
14.7+6=20.7
20.7x2=41.1
41.1-14.7=26.7
the answer is 26.7psi. i started this thread to see what kind of retards started visiting this forum and you are obviously one of them. and obviously this forum is not salvagable anymore due to the complete over run of retarded know it all like you so on a side note go ---- yourself.
and waste gate has nothing to do with the question when i said 6psi so congratulations you have officially avoided a question by spouting out more bull ---- you ------- idiot
14.7+6=20.7
20.7x2=41.1
41.1-14.7=26.7
the answer is 26.7psi. i started this thread to see what kind of retards started visiting this forum and you are obviously one of them. and obviously this forum is not salvagable anymore due to the complete over run of retarded know it all like you so on a side note go ---- yourself.
and waste gate has nothing to do with the question when i said 6psi so congratulations you have officially avoided a question by spouting out more bull ---- you ------- idiot
Look, all your numbers are completely useless, because the wastegate controls boost--Nothing else. So yes you will theoretically see 26.7psi of boost without a wastegate (Actually slightly less). But why the ---- would you run without a WG, or with it's feed being between the turbo outlet and blower inlet? So you get 26.7psi? That would surely blow most of the motors here. Not to mention how inefficient it'd be.
How does the wastegate have nothing to do with it? It controls the pressure in the system. Sure, plumb it and it won't, but why would you do that? You'd overboost in a heartbeat.
05-09-2009, 11:06 AM
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Obviously I am. Engineering degree and national certification be damned. All of the research and design into my car be damned.
Look, all your numbers are completely useless, because the wastegate controls boost--Nothing else. So yes you will theoretically see 26.7psi of boost without a wastegate (Actually slightly less). But why the ---- would you run without a WG, or with it's feed being between the turbo outlet and blower inlet? So you get 26.7psi? That would surely blow most of the motors here. Not to mention how inefficient it'd be.
How does the wastegate have nothing to do with it? It controls the pressure in the system. Sure, plumb it and it won't, but why would you do that? You'd overboost in a heartbeat.
Look, all your numbers are completely useless, because the wastegate controls boost--Nothing else. So yes you will theoretically see 26.7psi of boost without a wastegate (Actually slightly less). But why the ---- would you run without a WG, or with it's feed being between the turbo outlet and blower inlet? So you get 26.7psi? That would surely blow most of the motors here. Not to mention how inefficient it'd be.
How does the wastegate have nothing to do with it? It controls the pressure in the system. Sure, plumb it and it won't, but why would you do that? You'd overboost in a heartbeat.
05-10-2009, 02:05 AM
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exactly point. its called physics man. if i was you i would try to get a refund on that engineering degree and "national ceritfication"(what ever the ---- that means) becyase it really seems like you wasted money on that to not be able to understand a simple concept of compression.
ill break it down more simple for the retarded
air goes in at atmospheric pressure (14.7psi)
turbo compresses it 6 more psi (20.7psi)
then s/c compresses it again at(20.7psi)
now what should the pressure be even thought both syatems are only at 6psi. tell me that sir
ill break it down more simple for the retarded
air goes in at atmospheric pressure (14.7psi)
turbo compresses it 6 more psi (20.7psi)
then s/c compresses it again at(20.7psi)
now what should the pressure be even thought both syatems are only at 6psi. tell me that sir
