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JDM4G63T 02-03-2006 01:07 PM

Turbo Toyota Pickup Project...(Updated 3/5) Last Page
 
Heres the deal...picked up this 87 Toyota 4WD Pickup (Factory turbo) for $300 bucks. The idiot that sold me this thing, ran the old motor out of oil and grenaded it. So he spent $3,000 bucks to have a new 22rte built, threw it in the truck and didn't change the TURBO! He couldn't figure out why is was still smoking...so he just wanted to get rid of it. Needless to say, I offered him three bills. When I got it home I pulled that CT20 out and it was FUCKED four ways from Sunday. I ran a compression test, and leakdown motor was fine. New centerforce clutch too..

Now this is going to be my new DD, so I'm not shooting for 400 whp, 200-220 whp will be plenty as long as it's reliable. I picked up this GT28R for cheap ($500) figured it would give great response, and decent top end. I am currently finishing up an adapter flange going from CT20 to T25.
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/turboyota/gt28rs.jpg

Running the show CCA intercooler, but I had to modify endtanks so they were facing back, worked out beatifully.
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/turboyota/front.jpg

Another shot from the top, BOV will be a Tial 50mm, I had this laying around from my old DSM setup. Aluminum pipes are sexy.
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/turboyota/top.jpg

Shot with hood closed, I am cutting out the grill to fit with the intercooler in there, it will look clean.
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/turboyota/side.jpg

Here is the next crux of the project, exhaust and return line. I have a Vband adapter, and will be running full 3"
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/t...ta/exhaust.jpg

When I get the manifold back, I'll post some more pictures of the setup...

shadetree 02-03-2006 01:32 PM

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Looking good. I like it. Def post more pics as you make progress.

Do those trucks come intercooled?

tr4cti0n.i55ues 02-03-2006 01:39 PM

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that intercooler looks sexy

Dr.Boost 02-03-2006 01:42 PM

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---- yeah! :6 Post pics of the whole truck if you can, too. I love those trucks, but the factory turbo models are hard to find. You got a hell of a deal on that fucker. :S
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JDM4G63T 02-03-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 4wdwagon
Looking good. I like it. Def post more pics as you make progress.

Do those trucks come intercooled?

Nope not intercooled from factory. Only runs 7psi stock, through a dinky ass charge pipe.

linkmustang 02-03-2006 01:45 PM

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coool

ghettoturbo 02-03-2006 01:47 PM

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always wanted one of those...4wd right? is the truck in your sig yours as well?

Dr.Boost 02-03-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettoturbo
always wanted one of those...4wd right? is the truck in your sig yours as well?

I don't think they made a 2WD turbo, but I could be wrong. The first time I saw one of those I thought it was just some ricer trying to fool people into thinking he had a turbo Toyota truck. :l
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ochizon 02-03-2006 01:50 PM

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$300? Man, Im jealous as hell....

here is a pic of my turbo toyota (Tacoma) HMT style kit...

Harbor freight welder-welded pipes and all....

http://www.customtacos.com/forum/att...8&d=1134282412

JDM4G63T 02-03-2006 01:53 PM

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Dr. Boost here are some more pictures...

I knew I wanted the truck when I saw this...
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/turboyota/turbo.jpg

Kinda at a fucked angle, but you can see short bed, standard cab.
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/turboyota/turck.jpg

Here is the gauge cluster, turbo light baby!
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/turboyota/gauge.jpg

Here is a the Landcruiser, 4.0 L6 Dual Scroll T4ed!
http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/cruiser/cruiser1.jpg

http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/cruiser/1.jpg

JDM4G63T 02-03-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
I don't think they made a 2WD turbo, but I could be wrong. The first time I saw one of those I thought it was just some ricer trying to fool people into thinking he had a turbo Toyota truck. :l

They did make some 2wd ones, http://www.greenhydrant.com/%7edrees...rboupgrade.php They made a shitty turbo kit for them too, back in the 80's.

90dx 02-03-2006 03:33 PM

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Lucky bastard!I was big into Toy 4x4's before and always wanted one but could never find one that wasn't severly overpriced.The intercooler came out looking great as well as the rest. :yThat T28 shold be great on there.Your Landcrusher looks awesome too.What are you going to do for management to get some more fuel in the 22R?

Dr.Boost 02-03-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
Lucky bastard!I was big into Toy 4x4's before and always wanted one but could never find one that wasn't severly overpriced.The intercooler came out looking great as well as the rest. :yThat T28 shold be great on there.Your Landcrusher looks awesome too.What are you going to do for management to get some more fuel in the 22R?

Toyota's have killer resale value. :y It sucks for people looking for them, but kicks ass for people trying to sell them.
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JDM4G63T 02-03-2006 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
Lucky bastard!I was big into Toy 4x4's before and always wanted one but could never find one that wasn't severly overpriced.The intercooler came out looking great as well as the rest. :yThat T28 shold be great on there.Your Landcrusher looks awesome too.What are you going to do for management to get some more fuel in the 22R?

Fuel management is the next question...I want this to be a reliable rig so I'm not going to run the boost very high (10-15psi). It comes stock with 320cc Sat type injectors. I figure, get a supra fuel pump, an 1:1 adjustable regulator, SAFC, and maybe some DSM 450cc to keep the duty cycle down. I'll update when I figure out the fuel situation...

RedCavz 02-03-2006 05:49 PM

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Pretty sweet there man, diggin the i/c placement. That thing is gonna be one fun wheeler

con 02-03-2006 07:38 PM

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<-----------always wanted a factory turbo 2wdr ;)

ghettoturbo 02-03-2006 09:29 PM

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your landcruiser is sex on wheels

bumblezc 02-03-2006 11:52 PM

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landcruiser in mud is my new background!!!

JDM4G63T 02-04-2006 12:05 AM

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If you want to check some more pictures out, http://forcedinductionz.50megs.com/cruiser/ I picked up the LC for 3k in August, lifted it 6" and beadlocked boggers. I also LINE-Xed the tub and put drainage holes in the floor.

idiot-stick 02-04-2006 12:21 AM

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That...........is ------- awesome. 8)

90dx 02-04-2006 12:28 AM

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Your Landcrusher is hot.You have any underhood photos?Not to get off topic from the 22R turbo build.

JDM4G63T 02-04-2006 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
Your Landcrusher is hot.You have any underhood photos?Not to get off topic from the 22R turbo build.

I have the motor out right now, putting some forged pistons in it. Also getting rid of the log manifold, and building a tubular equal length. The ------- ebay wastegate sucked my ass, (freebie) so 46-40mm tial is what I'm going to get. I'm also working on the intake piping, it's a non-crossflow head, and turbo is on the wrong side for the snokel so I am still thinking of a way to route everything together. Soon as I make some progress on it I'll grab some pictures. I can't wait to hear the turbo sucking air through the snokel, should be badass.

90dx 02-04-2006 12:38 AM

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I imagine that 4.0 would spool a healthy size turbo up nicely and make some killer torque.How well do those heads move air?Those motors are around 275hp stock are they not?Also a local guy here[BC] has a FJ40 with a 22R turbo running a T28 and a standalone of which I cant remeber off hand.Seen it at the local dyno and I was talking to him he said the GT28 was a perfect match to the 22R.

JDM4G63T 02-04-2006 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
I imagine that 4.0 would spool a healthy size turbo up nicely and make some killer torque.How well do those heads move air?Those motors are around 275hp stock are they not?Also a local guy here[BC] has a FJ40 with a 22R turbo running a T28 and a standalone of which I cant remeber off hand.Seen it at the local dyno and I was talking to him he said the GT28 was a perfect match to the 22R.

It's a 3FE, what a dinosaur motor it truely is. The motor was based off the 235 Chevy L6, 8:1 compression, gear driven, and 12 valves of pushrod love. I think the head will be the bottleneck, the motor in it's stock form makes 155HP@4800rpm and 220LBS/FT@2200RPM. I wouldn't mind 300LBS/FT of torque, that is what my goal is for this setup. If I can do that, I will keep my 4:11 gear in there, that way I'm not constantly breaking driveline parts.

When I was researching the turbo for this truck, I went to Ray Hall's website and calculated the turbo CFM for the horsepower goals I was after. GT28R, was the clear winner, I can't wait to try her out!

90dx 02-04-2006 12:57 AM

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Oh ---- I was thinking you had the newer engine which I guess is a 4.5L the 1FZ-FE I think it is.That old tank engine you got is great I dont know if I have ever seen a engine take such a beating for a prolonged period and make it out of the bush running.I think 300ftlb is pretty realistic goal.Keep the updates coming. :y

JDM4G63T 02-04-2006 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
Oh ---- I was thinking you had the newer engine which I guess is a 4.5L the 1FZ-FE I think it is.That old tank engine you got is great I dont know if I have ever seen a engine take such a beating for a prolonged period and make it out of the bush running.I think 300ftlb is pretty realistic goal.Keep the updates coming. :y

No ----! The 3FE is bulletproof, when I first got the LC the distributor was 180 degree out, and it still ran pretty decent. It has just enough power to crawl out of anything, definetly not a freeway rig though :)

Dr.Boost 02-04-2006 01:04 AM

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I hate you. Give me your toys or I'll vote to ban you. :l
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JDM4G63T 02-04-2006 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
I hate you. Give me your toys or I'll vote to ban you. :l

How about I let you know next time I find a cheap or free toy, then you can bust up your knuckles working on these fuckers.

90dx 02-04-2006 01:17 AM

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You really get dirty working on those things.I know all about it.We will be needing some videos of the finsihed product in the mud with big rooster tails slingiing and the blow off cracking.

Dr.Boost 02-04-2006 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM4G63T
How about I let you know next time I find a cheap or free toy, then you can bust up your knuckles working on these fuckers.

Hell yeah. I've slaved on enough 22r's to know it's worth it. :6 My old 22R is still running after about 300,000 miles. It had a head gasket recently, but it was the owners fault it was overheating on the highway and he couldn't pull over so he had to drive it while it was red hot. :-\ I love Toyota trucks more than sex. :6
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Toysrme 02-04-2006 02:40 AM

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Toyota's are sexah!
JDM4G63T many older Toyota's have pleanty of room to work in the heads, but Toyota also just... Goes crazy conservative with cam profiles. In many cases, mild cams can provide big gains, without loosing anything compaired to stock cams. That goes double for all the old 12v 6 cylinders.

On the 22r-te, richen your AFM cog abit. Won't do what a piggyback will, but it'll open it up a bit. You can do the large body Denso AFM swap also if you feel like playing with it. That'd be worth it on the GT28 & adding boost.

JDM4G63T 02-04-2006 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Toysrme
Toyota's are sexah!
JDM4G63T many older Toyota's have pleanty of room to work in the heads, but Toyota also just... Goes crazy conservative with cam profiles. In many cases, mild cams can provide big gains, without loosing anything compaired to stock cams. That goes double for all the old 12v 6 cylinders.

On the 22r-te, richen your AFM cog abit. Won't do what a piggyback will, but it'll open it up a bit. You can do the large body Denso AFM swap also if you feel like playing with it. That'd be worth it on the GT28 & adding boost.

Toyotas are the sex. I can't say the same for my old DSM (doesn't stay moving). That thing went down more than a 2 cent hooker. I got hooked on these yotas once I found out how all of them were well engineered, parts were semi cheap (Landcruiser is the exception) and they hold up to the test of time. No wonder why Toyota is bigger than GM...hrrm.

I have done some research on aftermarket cams, MAF offers a "RV" cam for the 2F, some say it may work in the 3FE. I'll definetly look into more throughly before I finish the motor...

On the 22RTE, I would richen the AFM cog, but I have to vent the BOV (Tial 50mm) so it will cause a super rich condition after the bov open/closes. If the rpms fall back down to idle, it will be too rich and want to stall. I'll have to use the AFC to lean it out at low RPMs, and richen it when it goes into boost. I'll be using a SAFC 2 plus a three bar map sensor instead of the TPS to measure load. This will allow me to "tune" two different maps, one when it's in vacuum, and the other when it's in boost. I'm going to try to use the stock AFM, put 20%-30% larger injectors/ adjustable regulator. I should be able to trick the AFM out of fuel cut with this method. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm always open to new ideas!

Toysrme 02-04-2006 01:11 PM

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Damn the BOV. ;) If you really want to get into playing with fire... You can adjust the AFM's idle by-pass screw, throttle plate, and TPS. But you'd be sacraficing the idle for it.
You could buy an smt6, and above the safc you would have, real dual maps (in your way of thinking 4 sets), scale it on the rpm, TPS and a map sensor, or just off 2 sensors. Ignition control scaled on boost, extra injectors/wastegate, and either tune the afm, or the lambda sensor.

I'm a much bigger fan of just adding an injector<s>. It's no more work than pulling intake & fuel rails off, and there is tons less work tuning them. I've also swapped myself & a few others from doing that & tuning the AFM, to extra injectors + lambda control. Scale that o2 sensor to richen it up on boost & lean the thing out off-bost/low-rpm, and pick-up some economy.
You've still got one output to trigger a relay to do whatever. Sprays, water injection, anything under the sun that's on-off.

If you just want a little more fuel cheaply. Toyota cold-start injectors are about $2-5 on eBay, and a boost pressure switch is like $15. They make for a good "just in case". Especially since most older Toyota come with 1 CSI to begin with.




Sorry, I'm just not a big SAFC fan. ;)

jinxy 02-04-2006 01:29 PM

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your ------- landcruiser is awesome. i haev an 87 toy im boosting right now too 8)

idiot-stick 02-04-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS13
That...........is ------- awesome. 8)

Quoting myself just to reiterate the badassness of your projects. Damnit I want one of those!!

bumblezc 02-04-2006 03:04 PM

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Man I didn't know the cruisers had a solid font axle. Just would have guessed it was independant!!!

shadetree 02-04-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblezc
Man I didn't know the cruisers had a solid font axle. Just would have guessed it was independant!!!

I'm pretty sure US cruisers are independent. They still sell O.G. landcruisers in Africa and Australia, that have solid front axles. Check out the options, they are pretty badass. They call U.S. landcruisers, Prados.
http://toyota-africa.com/showroom/la...html?selcon=00
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Well the site doesn't show the options? They come with that 4.2L diesel, a turbo diesel, or a gasoline engine. The have different locking hub and differential options. And different tranny and gearing options. I wish I brought a catalogue back from Tanzania. The salespeople there thought I was a nut....spent about an hour crawling underneath the floor models.
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Here's a cool link
http://www.brian894x4.com/LC78main.html

JDM4G63T 02-04-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 4wdwagon
I'm pretty sure US cruisers are independent. They still sell O.G. landcruisers in Africa and Australia, that have solid front axles. Check out the options, they are pretty badass. They call U.S. landcruisers, Prados.
http://toyota-africa.com/showroom/la...html?selcon=00
(edit)
Well the site doesn't show the options? They come with that 4.2L diesel, a turbo diesel, or a gasoline engine. The have different locking hub and differential options. And different tranny and gearing options. I wish I brought a catalogue back from Tanzania. The salespeople there thought I was a nut....spent about an hour crawling underneath the floor models.
(edit)
Here's a cool link
http://www.brian894x4.com/LC78main.html

All US models of the LC were solid axle. 40 series through 100 series all have the 30 spline solid axle, which is the biggest birfield axle toyota makes. I believe that 80 through 100 series are all coil sprung solid axle. The 1HD turbo diesel motor is bad ass, it's basically the Yanmar boat engine mated to a 5 speed tranny, if only they sold that motor/tranny in the US. Check out www.ih8mud.com more information on the cruisers if your interested...

white ricer 02-04-2006 11:46 PM

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sick cruiser and even sicker truck. i planned on turboing a 85 toyota pickup but dropped due to rediculously good deal on a honda. yeah all cruisers up to like 98 or 99 were solid axle with coils all around, a really low range, enough creature comforts to make a benz owner comfortable, and did yours come witha locker? i know some did but not sure. they make gangster toyota four door hilux trucks with solid axles in europe... i would sell my soul for one..

JDM4G63T 02-05-2006 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by white ricer
sick cruiser and even sicker truck. i planned on turboing a 85 toyota pickup but dropped due to rediculously good deal on a honda. yeah all cruisers up to like 98 or 99 were solid axle with coils all around, a really low range, enough creature comforts to make a benz owner comfortable, and did yours come witha locker? i know some did but not sure. they make gangster toyota four door hilux trucks with solid axles in europe... i would sell my soul for one..

No lockers from the factory, I have an ARB air locker up front, and a power traxx in the rear. I have seen the hilux four door trucks they are pure sex.


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