turbo dont like it
 

I have a 97 civic dx obd2 with a .57 trim turbo kit on it, i start it up and it runs richer then bill gates, so i took my reg and took it to 20psi, still runnin kinda rich, but thats not my bigest problem, when i go passed 50% throttle it shuts off and idles, so i wondered what i need to do to fix this problem, i have a p06 ecu with conversion harness, (stock p06) if i convereted my car to obd1 would this fix the problem? if so what do i need to convert? the ecy and conversion kit dont do it alone, i think i need the iacv from a eg, and the distributer? whoever helps me and the ronda reach boost, i swear, night on the town, on me, we'll get bitches and hoes

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crome, look it up.

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you dont have a chipped ecu do you?
honda ecus don't like positive manifold pressure and your car is going into limp mode.
read the i want to put a turbo on my car atricle.

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no, i do not have a chipped ecu, but i havea missing link, so doesn't that make my car not read psi in the manny? and also im garbage at lookin stuff up, i tried, but do they make a chrome chip for obd2? and if not what website do you recommend to get the chip for a po6? and is that a yes to the iacv conversion? sorry for allt he questions its jsut im stumped, my friend has a 2000 si that he bought and we ahve no idea why it works and mine doesnt, only code his throws is temperture and mine throws no codes at all.

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obd2 has very, very few options (afc, fmu) Go To -------------, he should be able to set you up with everything

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thanks man, got one final question, my car is runnin, and throwing a code now, its throttle position, i did have the stock y7 manny and tb, and got a new aftermarket manny, the throttlebody i had was set for horizontal intake so i took a y8 tb and put it on so it is set to run out the side, any ideas on the positioning? if i fix this it may be able to let me get on it a little, i just want my car to have fun under boost, the code is p1121, throttle positioning, air fuel meter

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post porn noobie

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I went to phearable.net, and waiting for a reply back, i read everything on the website concerning their chip that comes with 2 step, custom rev lim, speed governor takin off, and clicked the order form and under the programming options theirs like 5 different things, that cost from 30 dollars to 150 dollars and from what i need all i need is the 30 dollar chip to install into my po6, im going to convert my car to obd1 tomorrow and hopefully the guy will reply then seeing today is monday, but i have my obd2a to obd1 conversion harness, a po6 and getting a intake manny off a obd1 dx 5spd, so i have the 2 wire iacv, can somone confirm this is everything i need? and the chip comes preburned witht he data it needs for my car? then i post boobies

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Don't forget you'll have to convert the connector/wiring from the y7 IAC to the y8 IAC. What do you mean on positioning? TPS position? Hell you can always run a Greddy bluebox as those work well on OBD2 systems. ALso besides the missing link...what else are you running for fuel management? If that's all your running... :X

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im running precision 310cc injectors, high impedance, an adj. fuel reg, the greddy wat outta my price range, and im tired of obd2, shoulda stuck with what people said and converted my car, i tried, but wasn't informed i need the 2 wire iacv but i got that now, so precision 310cc, adj reg, a 94 dx manny, aem fuel rail. So this chip is all i need correct? that 30 dollar chip? and my car will love to be boosted? I haven't heard anything fomr anybody about ordering from phearable, so im kind of sceptic and would like to hear some positives

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plus getting colder plugs..., im runnin stoccccccck plugs right now and heard to switch to colder plugs, and retard my timing

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I'm not talking about Greddy E-Manange...I'm talking about the bluebox. Came with the older Greddy turbo kits. You can find them for under 100 bucks and install in about 5 minutes. You need more then the fpr to control the injectors.

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ya, that chip phearable.net sends, if i set my reg at stock setting, 45psi or somewhere around there and have them make me a chip according to my setup, they should be able to control my air/fuel too, according to what their saying, but no matter what, i want to convert to obd1 now, i jsut need to know if this chip will solve my problems after the conversion, but 2 wire iacv conversion harness, and po6 ecu with this chip is all i need in order to convert my car to obd1 and boost fine? cuz it says it has fuel maps and ignition timing custom for my car, i tell them the motor, my map sensor, and what upgrades i have, and they custom make the chip for me, please tell me theres nothin else i need, ive been nickel diming my car to death

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going out to start the conversion, if someone could please leave me feedback on phearable.net and my conversion method for boosting itde be much appreciated. thanks

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I've heard some bad stuff about phearable.net,

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what they send you will make your car run. but you still gunna need to get it tuned. convert to obd1. have xenocron make your a chip with a basemap. get car tuned. boost. make vids. post porn.

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Phearable can suck my nuts. He's pretty much just a rip-off trying to sell you something that you can do yourself. He charges some pretty steep prices for a basemap that needs to be tuned anyway. Ask JD on his opinion of phearable.net... ;)

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What a dumbfuck. There's a reason that xenocron is a sponsor here and not pherable. Get someone to hide your keys until you figure out wut your doing.

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Wow, you need some straightening out. It seems your running pieces of either an FMU setup, an AFC setup, and a chipped setup. lol

1. The missing link is ONLY used if you have an FMU to control the pressure for your STOCK injectors.

2. The 310cc injectors need to be controlled somehow, either with a piggyback (bluebox) and your stock ECU, or with a chipped ECU.

3. Chipped ECU: converting from OBD 2 to 1 is not hard. just get an OBD1 ECU (like your p06) and a jumper harness. From what I've read, I'm pretty sure you don't need to swap IACVs or distributors or any other crap like that. The basemap on the chip will control your 310cc injectors, at STOCK pressure level.

pick one and go with it. lol

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the obd2 to obd1 would of worked for my car if it was a d16y8 because the vtec came with a 2wire iacv, i have a non vtec with the 3 wire, and in order for obd1 to work it needs to be a 2 wire, which i figured out when i tried jsut the harness and ecu, its a shitty situation, so heres my plan if that information was right, if i keep my obd2, get the bluebox, keep my 310cc injectors and keep my adj reg and set my adj reg for about 50 psi the bluebox will keep my injectors set at 45psi the stock setting, and then my car will work? just get it tuned somewhere afterwards? im sorry if i sound retarded, its just noone has experience with obd2 form where i live, their all obd0 and 1 with their all motorness, but people have actually used the emanage on a d16y7? like a obd2 dx civic 5spd? cuz it says not compatible with all vehicles. and is it pretuned tot he point wher ei can plug it in and drive without worry of my boost and car gayin up? sorry for newb questions i jsut like researching before spending a years savings

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call it ironic, but my friend jsut came over to look at my turbo setup and broguht me an fmu he jsut got from his friend and is letting me borrow it to see if it works, so ill try the fmu missing link setup, if it works, ull have some porn ass boost burnouts, like straight up, ull see smoke and tires and a 97 civic with rimmmms, thanks guys, if this works, there will be no mroe noob questions from me, if it doesn't work, im gonna be on here crying x2

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awesome idea. get fmu, beat ---- out of engine. repeat until car no longer runs

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lol, it was jsut a joke, im givent he turbo a 5 year brake in period, so my car ocmpletely rusts out before i beat it, but just for support, everyone agree that obd2 will workw ith boost with just a missing link and fmu? ???

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It'll work awesome...plus you get some mad tyte detonation pinging. detonation = super jdm...just like your rims

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as long as its jdm, is it ebay jdm? like jdm type r detonation? but seriously, will it work? I read up on it and the timing sounds like a big problem at WOT, from what i understand i need to retard my timing 1 degree for every pound? correct me if im wrong, please

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Can we have like a home made turbo screening process? Like a test that you have to take before you are allowed to join, maybe then we would have more people asking logical questions. Bro, get the conversion harness to OBD1, how are you running a p06 on the stock harness? The connector is missing three pins for an OBD1 ecu. Go to pgmfi.org and read until your eyes bleed.

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NO I WANNA DO EVERYTHING THE HARD WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FMU, CHECK VALVES, OBD2 BABY!

I have seen at least 5 threads in the last week with this kind of idiot mentality

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NO, im running my stock obd2 ecu, is aid ---- to the obd1 conversion, literally, 1 of my last posts i said ---- the obd1 conversion im goin with the bluebox or the fmu/missing link, then i asked if all i need is the missing link and fmu to do this, IM RUNNING OBD2 with missinglink and fmu, these 3 things = my obd2 car running with boost, and all i want to know is if this is true.

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Alright...here's the breakdown on fmu's and afc's/bluebox's. Fmu's will raise the rate of pressure on your fuel rail and is usually intended to be used with stock injectors and a missing link/check valves. These work semi-ok up to about 5-6 psi depending on the cfm flow of your turbo. But that still leaves the issue of the increased timing under boost, which is not a good thing on sohc honda's.
Afc's and the bluebox are pretty much the same thing, they allow you to scale a larger injector down using the stock ecu maps in order to add more fuel under boost. These work ok on stock boosted cars such as dsm's or wrx's (to a degree) but on honda's they present an even greater timing problem...they scale the timing tables back as well to sections of the ecu map that have the highest timing advance numbers. Here the limit of boost you can run is usually 8-10psi, anything after that and the ecu will start seeing boost again and throw you back into limp mode.
Only way to combat the timing issue with these 2 is to get an msd btm and run at least a 1*/psi boost retard, probably even more with the afc/greddy units.
So all said and done you spent way more money and time than you would have if you had converted to obd1 and chipped and tuned your ecu. ;)

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It doesent get much better than what he stated ^^^^^^^^^


Keep on with your bullshit

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Seriously dude, you need an ODB1 conversion harness and a chipped ECU. It's silly to go with anything else.


This is you right now:


'Hi, I'd like a junior bacon cheeseburger and a small coke'

'Well, we can upgrade your burger to include a full pound of thick sliced hickory smoked bacon and a keg of coke for absolutely free. For a limited time, we'll throw in hot lesbians'

'No thanks, I'll just take the regular burger'

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^^^^^ And then he would say, you know what, cancel that all together and just throw in two buns and I will use my friends sausage for the meat so when I give him some road head it will be different. And let me get a diet pepsi to wash it down.


Why the ---- do people like this wanna go the hard way that is NOT the BETTER way. Now if it was people would be saying, man thats going to be tough but it might be worth it. Not in your case. Its not any better, and its purely ------ rigged. If you go do it that way the only place you will be able to show off your douchebag setup is H-T. They will be like aw man thats a cool valve cover. You will be like man its stock, I never even pulled it off. Then the guy will reply oh okay its just real cleen dude!! I gona get minez chromed !

------- DIE!

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thanks slo_crx, i jsut want to get my car running, ive beenw ithout it for a weak and i need it, its my 1 and only somone, but while i have the fmu setup ill order a chip so when i get it ill convert obd1 then, so out of all the places that makes chips, which is the most affordable and productive? Right now that fmu ill be using is absolutly free till i give it back, and one more question, seeing i can't get a straight answer, from here, turbod16.com, and honda-tech, i need the intake manifold off either a d16y8, or off a eg dx for the 2wire iacv, i have the ecu, i have the conversion harness, and on HMT and turbod16.com they said i actually need a obd1 motor to do the conversion, which i dont think should make a difference. Right now i have the fmu hooked up, taking off the aftermarket reg, putting the stock reg back on along with the stock rail and gonna try it again, ifthat doesnt work should i try stock injectors along with it?

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put on the fmu, the missing link, and stock injectors started it up and was running as rich as the 310's were and still made my car go to idle at WOT, so i investigated and found a vacuum leak around the throttlebody and manifold, but would that be enough to make my car run at idle rev at WOT?

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No. Or maybe. Yes. Oh yeah!! :S

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sweet, getting a new gasket 2morro hopefully this wil fix it and send me on my boosted ways, i swear if this works, ill post so much porn you gys will be bleeding fromt he pp's

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new gasket fixed the vacuum leak, but still vacuums 10 at idle when it should be 20, also stock injectors, rail, and reg are all back on, still running very rich, and still wont elt me WOT, so could the richness be from the o2 sensor placement? i have 1 8 inches away from turbo on DP and 1 on my testpipe which is around the pilpan, any ideas to fix the vacuum and richness?

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you're a bit vague.