Turbo celica Prawrject. update
 

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trying to clock this slutty old turbo. sprayed the slut with pb blaster and letting it soak in. ill get it tomorrow when i can beat on it and not wake people up.

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i hope i have room

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got the fr knuckle off trying to change the god damn wheel bearing. that will have to wait to have the hub beat out of it tomorrow.

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What all is planned for this project?I see a CT26.Management?That thing kinda looks like a bitch to work on but Im sure it will come out great in the end as Toyota engines love boost.

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ct26, celica all trac manifold, saab side mount. autometer boost gauge. running like 6-8lbs ill probably run an FMU or an SDS and 2 step colder plugs and timing retarded at the dizzy until i get a decent job and can get a good full stand alone..

Its as easy as a honda to work on. theres just allot of vac hoses and the maf airbox and cruise control are both huge.

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Thats awesome! I used to have an 89 gts. I was also thinking of turbocharging. For engine management you might want to think about using 3sgte injectors and using the afm trick to scale them back, its one of the few advantages of having an afm. I know it is not a great solution but it is better than a fmu in my opinon. Keep us updated i'm very interstead in how it turns out, the 3sge engine is fun stock and with boost it must be crazy. ;D

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Sweet project man, keeps us updated. BTW, I love the duct tape on the intake hose!!

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I wouldnt know what to do with the AFM to scale them back.

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Cool. What's that turbo comparable to in T3 and T4 terms. Looks like a decent size for sure.


Dude, how old are you? I thought you were older. :o


JP

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i was wondering the same thing

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equiv to a large t3. nice to see your boosting something :P

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nice car :6..i used to have an 86 gts..with the 3sge...to bad it wasnt an all-trac...those are insane :y

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turned 20 last year, but everyone thinks im 17, lol.



i had a boosted d15b2. it was slow as balls though.

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Good job mang. You should try to get an SMT6, I have it and it rocks so hard.

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what are you gonna do for tuning for this beast man?? im loookin into some old celicas but dont know of any programs or anything..

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smt6 and smt7 look cool. can you hook a wideband o2 up to it for the tuning softwares a/f monitoring? how much do these things go for.

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I have a few diffrent options. I was going to use an fmu then just go hardcore full stand alone style. but these piggy back controlers look cool.

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I don't think you can datalog with the SMT6 (I haven't messed with it enough), but I know you can with the SMT7. They basically are the closest to stand alone you can get, and I picked up mine used for about 250. That and some DSM 450's and you're golden. I did the same thing, then bought a DIY wideband for 150 and I have a full tuning/fuel/spark setup for about 450 bucks. Not a bad deal. If you buy new you're looking at 450 bucks for just the SMT6.

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sweet 3sge's are tite. i wish my 5sfte would stop being jewish. good luck man keep this updated.

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i didnt know a 3sge was a maf engine. Do you have to relocate the oil filter like the 5sfte guys? that shits a bitch. Good luck, and a ct is about as big as a t3/t4. Its much larger than my 60/63, which is just about as big as it gets for a t3. (except for an 82exh) Your ---- looks hot mang.. love those old toyotas. I had a 91 gts, pearl white with blue interior. that ---- was mint, 60,000 miles. Some ------- hit me in the sholder and totalled it. :'(

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The SMT6 is junk. It doesnt' interpolate the 3d tables. Still better than an FMU.

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Eh, no worries on age, I'm 19 and people think I look 24, and my buddy Tim is 23 and people think he's 18 half the time haha.

Looks tits though man, good luck with the build

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I noticed you menitoned you had some stuff like the All-Trac manifold but I couldn't find anywhere if that's the All-Trac Celica or not?? If so man, I'm jelous, I've alwayse thought the turbo all wheel drive celica's are sick

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nope its not the awd one. it could verry easily become awd though.

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It's the best thing for the price. What experience do you have with it?

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I think the smt6 is a good option but depends how much you want to spend.

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ct-26 vs. mitsu turbo (i dont know if its a 14b or a t-25 i think its a t-25 off of a second gen)
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another ct-26 vs gay dsm turbo
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turbo boobies
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finding uses for twist ties
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success!!

didint do much tonight. i only got to play with my car for a few hours. I got the suspension back togeather also. But i didint want to get into taking the altiator off to get the exaust mani off. that will probably come tomorrow. And i think im going to have to ditch ac so i can fit a down pipe in there. unless i do some crafty mcguiver ---- with that twist tie. :)

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---- AC.Looking good and them CT26's are pretty decent size i might have to use one of them for a future project they are dirt cheap.

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we built a jeep wrangler with an SMT6 and a turbo. It has an FMU to take the fuel pressure up a bit, then the fuel delivery is tuned by 3 extra injectors mounted in the charge pipe just before the throttle body. SMT6 controls the extra injectors.
At 7psi boost the tables in the SMT6 are barely big enough because it doesn't interpolate. I have to have fields at 1psi, 2psi, 3psi, 4psi, 5psi, 6psi, 7psi and 8psi. That's all the 3d tables have space for and it doesn't allow any further between the load sites because it doesn't interpolate. This is an offroad truck so part throttle performance is important.

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I drove the car around today and its not as awesome as i rember it being. its been down for like 2 years and now I cant even realy fit in the car. my head hits the ceiling. It weighs a ---- ton. Theres probably like 2.5 inches of clearance for the downpipe and fuel management is going to be a pain in the ass. I think im going to sell it. keep my turbo ----. and go buy a 4th gen civic hatch or a crx. and have that as a project car. I really hate having to source parts for this car. and i can forsee more ---- causing problems if i boost it. so i think i might just sell it for 2 grand.

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Heh.

I thought you were older, too.

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just overly sinnical, aloof and apathetic for my age.

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so much for an update :P

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the more ive thought about it. the more 240ish hp in a 2900 pound car sounds gay.

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Sucks that you are thinking about selling your car. It sounded like you had most of the parts together to turbocharge it. Just out of curiosity how many miles are on it and is there any rust?

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64k miles on the chassis 40k? on the motor. and alittle bit of quarter pannel rust on the passenger side. its not really bad for an 87 though.

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ditto. lol but i still like driving mine. (when im not replacing engine componants that is :P)

tranny is ready to be dropped btw. axels out and an engine mount. Only thing holding it is one engine mount and like 3 bolts. dropping in this weekend (i have midterms, and work like 5 or 6 hours on school days >:()..

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64k miles on the chassis 40k? on the motor. and alittle bit of quarter pannel rust on the passenger side. its not really bad for an 87 though.
Wow thats low miles. Is the engine a JDM replacement? I think you should keep it and turbocharge it. One more thing, you said that your car weighs 2900 pounds. This is not true it weighs about 2600 pounds which is about 500 pounds more than an SI. A 500 pound difference is substantial but not extreme and considering the fact that you have a 2.0 compared to the civic 1.6 your added displacement will balance the fact that your car is 500 pounds heavier.

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yeah its a jdm motor. i bought the car off some old lady who stoped driving it when the wheel bearing went bad then she just parked it in her garage. I also have a cast iron closed deck block. If im jsut going to buy a civic and blow it up i should just finish the celica right. :-\ ----. i might finish it. i seirously have everything but fuel management and a blow off valve.





i wonder if i could use a honda ECU on a celica :P its all nippon denso sensors. the engines spin the other way. but they also fire the other way. >:D

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lol dont get a FMU!. seirously. haha.. or if u must, its alright, but dont let the vaccuum line get kinked.. sigh.. that's like the worst mistake i've ever made in my life.. haha.. damn. Well yea rawr i think u should consider dlb's advice. And i'll add to it. I was thinking.. damn that hp to weight ratio is like a V6 old lady's car lol. but i smash on v6's all day.. i dunno why. oh and my friends built 350 el camino. all i know is that i've ridden in tons of v6's and my car is wayy faster.( i still don' t think my cars fast b/c its not like 12's) but its decent, and the torqiness is fun as hell. Anyways i think u should do it.. so that makes 3 boosted celi's on HMT lol.. me, you, and snafub. :y WEll gotta get some rest.. Later bro.

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Listen I have a very simple solution to your engine management problems use 3sgte injectors along with the AFM trick to scale them back. Ok here is how you do it first you must locate the afm its that square metal box in your intake incase you didnt know, second you must remove the black plastic lid on top of the afm, before you go adjusting it, it is a good idea to mark the position of the hold down clamp on the gear wheel this enables you to return it to its stock location.(I used a pen to mark it) Next, loosen the hold down screw then you are able to move the gear you turn it to the right to lean the mixture you would only want to do this after you have installed the 3sgte injectors. After you are done be sure to reseal the black plastic window because moisture will kill the electronics in the AFM. Basically what you have done is made an afc for FREE. Yes its pretty crude but better than an FMU.

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so its baiscly like making the spring stiffer in the afm? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to put a potentiometer on the signal line and scale it back making the engine thinking its getting less air than it really is so it doesnt shoot as much fuel with the bigger injectors? that way id be able to kindove tune in with knobs. ???