Turbo celica drift project on the CHEAP
#11
Re: Turbo celica drift project on the CHEAP
Originally Posted by RKSskier
See I dont know if it will be all that high rpm low load. I feel like it will likely be med to high load in middle rpm often. Has pretty long gears it looks like, So second gear drifts will probably be 3000-4000 rpm, and maybe the gears are long enough to do slow drifts in first, but idk.
Drifting has two major concerns for the longivity of an engine. The first being the obivious fact that sustaned corners have the ability to loose the oil pump prime on certain engines. The second is that if your tires are spinning, the engine is technically unloaded. Might not sound bad, but an unloaded engine at a decent RPM is an engine in which the slightest problem will manifest itself in the total destruction of the engine.
In short, its ------- hard on your motor. And with an engine that has known oil control problems and bearing failure if abused, dont expect the thing to hang together.
On the alternative point-of-view, 22r are abundant (at least here) and if you pop yours, a replacement wouldnt be much of a headache. More or less its up to you.
Originally Posted by RKSskier
My biggest worry is the ecu. Im not going to do a bit turbo setup or expensive at all. Not going to do megasquirt, thinking an fmu for low boost will get me plenty of tq. The yota guys on the celica forum seem to think it won't work too well. From what I have read the stock ecu might actually be able to compensate for 3-4 lbs boost, but im thinking of doing it the cheapo ghetto honda way. missing link, fmu (let the ecu think its wot, not boost) I feel the ecu will be more predictable there. Unfortunately there is no hackable ecu and romulator.
people hate fmu's so can I get one for cheap?
idk much about them, didnt crome p28 last setup
people hate fmu's so can I get one for cheap?
idk much about them, didnt crome p28 last setup
my $.02
#12
Re: Turbo celica drift project on the CHEAP
find a way to adapt a honda ecu/dizzy to the setup, i don't think fitting honda internals in a 22r distributor will be hard. you can always convert to a carb distributor and lock the weights so the vac advance lets you part-throttle it around and gives you a cheap retard in boost
#13
Re: Turbo celica drift project on the CHEAP
I didn't even think of the oiling being an issue, but you are right. i believe they are known for poor oil circulation or poor pumps. Now the other thing is that I will be just starting, and not able to drift all that often. So I don't see myself holding drifts that are very long, especially for sometime. Honestly I will be doing most the begining will be in the rain. In the dry it will be on crappy tires anyways. Point being it will be less lateral g's than if it was grip driving with stock suspension. So hopefully oil wont actually be an issue. To be honest Im not going to stress about it. Now I hope that the stock power will be enough to keep them spinning small enough, hard enough tires, with enough (too much) camber.
So biggest thing I keep hearing is about the ecu. You guys don't think the stock ecu (fmu + missing link maybe) could handle 4-6 lbs? not talking getting the most out of it as I can, but running reliablly out of boost, and adding some power with the boost and not blowing it up.
So biggest thing I keep hearing is about the ecu. You guys don't think the stock ecu (fmu + missing link maybe) could handle 4-6 lbs? not talking getting the most out of it as I can, but running reliablly out of boost, and adding some power with the boost and not blowing it up.
#14
Re: Turbo celica drift project on the CHEAP
you might be able to use a 2wd truck oil pan, they're deep pans
the flapper maf sensor is lame. you just adjust the pretension a few teeth and it makes up for the increased air
stock internals will handle 9lbs if you can find a way to tune, but honestly a honda ingition system might be the cheapest way to adapt it
the flapper maf sensor is lame. you just adjust the pretension a few teeth and it makes up for the increased air
stock internals will handle 9lbs if you can find a way to tune, but honestly a honda ingition system might be the cheapest way to adapt it
#16
Re: Turbo celica drift project on the CHEAP
it's the second most simple engine to work on. save yourself the headache and replace the timing chain, (dual row will help with the high rpm stress), tensioner, and make sure you get metal backed timing guides. and replace the oil pump with a brand name pump such as one from LCE
2 bad points that i have ran into on my own. and watch your ------- *** when you take the timing cover off! headgasket and pan gasket are touching it, loosen your pan bolts so you don't damage the pan gasket or the hg
fluxcore log and 60/63 on my old 22r :1
2 bad points that i have ran into on my own. and watch your ------- *** when you take the timing cover off! headgasket and pan gasket are touching it, loosen your pan bolts so you don't damage the pan gasket or the hg
fluxcore log and 60/63 on my old 22r :1
#18
Re: Turbo celica drift project on the CHEAP
Also when you do the chain, make sure you stuff a rag or something between the block and oil pan when you take the front cover off, chain guide debris will find its way down there, and you will not be a happy camper having to pull the pan too.