Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more porn!)
02-20-2009, 02:57 PM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
Originally Posted by Toysrme
your tvis issue check that your vaccuum tank holds vaccuum. when the check valve in them gets old they can leak easy when they see boost. new tank with a good check valvue wouldn't be doing that. only real issue with it should be openeing at the wrong time for the powerband (which they do anyway lol)
for alittle more fuel you just loosen the cog, adjust the by-pass screw / add external bypass as necessary.when you want a lot more fuel (like your na-t). larger injectors + medium fmu + tighter cog to try to reel them back in off boost. you can get plenty of fuel that way. where you run into trouble trying to get good driveability with it once the injectors get much larger than stock. afew years ago i did a sohc 3vz-e that would run open up great on a set of 315's out of a 7m-gte, run ok mid throttle off boost and not very well under that. had to swap the stock atmo regulator (had a 4:1 fmu-good fit for v6's) for one set in the low 20psi range (vs stock running 3-36'ish and 40+ @ WOT when the VSV opened it to the atmo). ran alot better after that. the original point was what you already know. if you wanna drive around before you get management to it. here's an easy way to cram fuel into it until whatever you wind up doing get's ready to roll.
hitchiker tell me about physics when your last name is plant heisenberg bohr, etc
for alittle more fuel you just loosen the cog, adjust the by-pass screw / add external bypass as necessary.when you want a lot more fuel (like your na-t). larger injectors + medium fmu + tighter cog to try to reel them back in off boost. you can get plenty of fuel that way. where you run into trouble trying to get good driveability with it once the injectors get much larger than stock. afew years ago i did a sohc 3vz-e that would run open up great on a set of 315's out of a 7m-gte, run ok mid throttle off boost and not very well under that. had to swap the stock atmo regulator (had a 4:1 fmu-good fit for v6's) for one set in the low 20psi range (vs stock running 3-36'ish and 40+ @ WOT when the VSV opened it to the atmo). ran alot better after that. the original point was what you already know. if you wanna drive around before you get management to it. here's an easy way to cram fuel into it until whatever you wind up doing get's ready to roll.
hitchiker tell me about physics when your last name is plant heisenberg bohr, etc
7mgte does not come with 315cc injectors, they are 440cc.
Try looking in one of those text books you are so fond of quoting, and stop spouting useless information that has no basis in reality. My 2 year old niece has a better grasp of physics than you.
Its simply amazing your 'brain' (if it can be considered?) has the capacity to perform basic functions like breathing.
02-21-2009, 12:29 AM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
Originally Posted by liam75
As for the TVIS all the crap ive read and been told is saying the TVIS plates are closed with no vacuum, but that makes no sense. When i applied vacuum to the actuator the idle clears up and a noticeable difference in intake noise is heard like its sucking more air. That and it fixes my high rpm surge/lack of power. I tried just disconnecting the TVIS vacuum line and it made it worse.
if you want some cheap engine management, check in the crome forum on pgmfi- there's a thread there about using honda ECUs on toyotas, with pics of the setup on a 4ag powered rolla. it works amazingly well- i've been running a P75 on my SW20 for a couple years now and last summer was the first season i've been able to drive it without any reliability issues- and it's also the fastest it's ever been. if you can handle some basic fab work (which it looks like you can), it might be a project worth looking into.
02-21-2009, 12:39 AM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
Originally Posted by scarecrowX
if it's anything like the 3sgte, the plates default open, and are closed when the VSV opens to allow vac from the canister into the actuator. if you want it gone, you can pull the plate off and remove the butterflies and plug the holes for the shaft. a lot of MR2 guys do this. you could have a bad actuator, as they tend to rot out. i pulled mine apart and fixed it with some fiberglass fabric and RTV.
if you want some cheap engine management, check in the crome forum on pgmfi- there's a thread there about using honda ECUs on toyotas, with pics of the setup on a 4ag powered rolla. it works amazingly well- i've been running a P75 on my SW20 for a couple years now and last summer was the first season i've been able to drive it without any reliability issues- and it's also the fastest it's ever been. if you can handle some basic fab work (which it looks like you can), it might be a project worth looking into.
if you want some cheap engine management, check in the crome forum on pgmfi- there's a thread there about using honda ECUs on toyotas, with pics of the setup on a 4ag powered rolla. it works amazingly well- i've been running a P75 on my SW20 for a couple years now and last summer was the first season i've been able to drive it without any reliability issues- and it's also the fastest it's ever been. if you can handle some basic fab work (which it looks like you can), it might be a project worth looking into.
Although, I have yet to see anyone put an obd1 honda ecu on an aw11 (darn it...) since the dizzy is mounted on the exhaust side of the cylinder head instead of opposite the cam gears. Not quite as simple to setup unfortunately. I would have boosted mine months ago.
02-21-2009, 02:53 AM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
Originally Posted by scarecrowX
if it's anything like the 3sgte, the plates default open, and are closed when the VSV opens to allow vac from the canister into the actuator. if you want it gone, you can pull the plate off and remove the butterflies and plug the holes for the shaft. a lot of MR2 guys do this. you could have a bad actuator, as they tend to rot out. i pulled mine apart and fixed it with some fiberglass fabric and RTV.
if you want some cheap engine management, check in the crome forum on pgmfi- there's a thread there about using honda ECUs on toyotas, with pics of the setup on a 4ag powered rolla. it works amazingly well- i've been running a P75 on my SW20 for a couple years now and last summer was the first season i've been able to drive it without any reliability issues- and it's also the fastest it's ever been. if you can handle some basic fab work (which it looks like you can), it might be a project worth looking into.
if you want some cheap engine management, check in the crome forum on pgmfi- there's a thread there about using honda ECUs on toyotas, with pics of the setup on a 4ag powered rolla. it works amazingly well- i've been running a P75 on my SW20 for a couple years now and last summer was the first season i've been able to drive it without any reliability issues- and it's also the fastest it's ever been. if you can handle some basic fab work (which it looks like you can), it might be a project worth looking into.
Would you happen to have a cad file or anything like that of your adapter? I've made a few but I never end up liking how they turn out.
02-21-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
no, but it wouldnt be hard to draw up.
i'm woreking on a setup that just uses a couple of cam sensors and a crank trigger to drive a gm DIS module (which outputs a digital signal that can be used as a TDC sensor) so i can eliminate the distributor altogether. if i can make it work it would be a much cleaner and easier swap for any engine...
i'm woreking on a setup that just uses a couple of cam sensors and a crank trigger to drive a gm DIS module (which outputs a digital signal that can be used as a TDC sensor) so i can eliminate the distributor altogether. if i can make it work it would be a much cleaner and easier swap for any engine...
02-22-2009, 06:05 AM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
Thanks for the help, as for a stand alone i actually have a full ready to bolt on megasquirt using fords EDIS in a box just sitting there. I just have absolutely zero graspe of how that ---- works. I will have to do some research to figure it out before i get too into it. That and i want to get a GZE bottom end so i can throw a bit more boost at it once i get everything all sorted out.
As for the TVIS im not saying anyones wrong, but as i said whats happening seems to be opposite of what should be. The TVIS plates are NOT open with zero vacuum, if they were having the vacuum hose disconnected would fix my problem, but like i said it made it worse. As soon as i apply enough vacuum to the actuator the engine runs smoother and my high RPM issues go away. None of this matters anymore since im just going to get rid of that crap anyway. All it was designed to do was increase bottom end torque which i dont give a rats *** about since i have the god damn thing on the rev limter 90% of the time anyway.
Thanks again for all the tips and helps i appreciate it.
As for the TVIS im not saying anyones wrong, but as i said whats happening seems to be opposite of what should be. The TVIS plates are NOT open with zero vacuum, if they were having the vacuum hose disconnected would fix my problem, but like i said it made it worse. As soon as i apply enough vacuum to the actuator the engine runs smoother and my high RPM issues go away. None of this matters anymore since im just going to get rid of that crap anyway. All it was designed to do was increase bottom end torque which i dont give a rats *** about since i have the god damn thing on the rev limter 90% of the time anyway.
Thanks again for all the tips and helps i appreciate it.
02-22-2009, 02:20 PM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
Originally Posted by Toysrme
What you're missing is that MAF's have a gigantic *** tard of ---- impenging in the intake that's a disruption.
Yea, that's a gigantic *** tard of ---- in the way.......
02-22-2009, 06:36 PM
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Re: Turbo 4AGE (now with 50% more ****!)
Just so everyone here understands...This is what toys-arent-me is trying to pass off here.
Yeah so lets take a column of air, bend it around fifteen degrees, bend it back another 15, and then send it thru your intake. Oh yeah we'll stick a little metal flap and spring in there too, just for good measure. Nevermind anything long dead scientists like Bernoulli said about fluids and how they move concentrated on the outside of their containers. ---- all that ----.
Restriction? The real restriction is the blood flow to this kid's brain.
Yeah so lets take a column of air, bend it around fifteen degrees, bend it back another 15, and then send it thru your intake. Oh yeah we'll stick a little metal flap and spring in there too, just for good measure. Nevermind anything long dead scientists like Bernoulli said about fluids and how they move concentrated on the outside of their containers. ---- all that ----.
Restriction? The real restriction is the blood flow to this kid's brain.
