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Old 09-11-2007, 11:21 PM
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Love it, had it for a year and a half. All the stuff done to it was HM, I did the whole Aftermarket crap with my civic, but this car I wanted to be my dirty work, and that way I know everything will fit and be quality parts. Last year before I did a new clutch and flywheel and a few other custom performance mods I ran a 13.7 basically bigger injectors and a smaller pulley. Only problem is traction lol like all other FWD. Fast as hell though on the highway. Although there are a few problems like other cars. Clutch, interior trim, and I heard axles breaking although I've kept mine intact and I'm arrogant on the gas.
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:58 PM
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That's a pretty ------- stupid "general rule." 1psi=10chp? How the ---- do you actually think that is anywhere close to an accepted figure. so you are trying to say that with an 88mm turbo and 40psig you would only pick up 400chp? ------- dumbass. Post ****
wow, your about as ------- stupid as the OP...

google is a wonderfull tool, try searching for "1psi = 10 hp"

and you will also find a nice little link here http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/ge...perf-guide.pdf

its ------- amazing the information you can find when you look for it, just like you should look for your own god damn **** you ------- dipshit.


so using KENNY BELL'S formula of 1psi=6.8% in this car that has a rating of 115 crank hp, put the actual hp gain for 1 psi to 7.888, so therefor, i was being nice and gave the kid 10hp per psi.

go away you non ----- ------- ******
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:04 AM
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to the original poster....

when you raced your cobalt in this cavi, did you race all the way up to ~110mph?

because if i have read every post of yours about this, you keep saying you granny shift, dont run the rpm's up because it blows the IC pipes off and all that other good ----,

however, you say it has raced your cobalt and your positive it is as fast as the cobalt.

run the cavi through 1/4 mile against the cobalt, not just first gear.
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:11 AM
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and i forgot to mention that you stated you raced the cobalt during the problems you were having with the pipe coming off and running like *** because you used the wrong tubing and have vac leaks...



im not bashing your car, i am bashing the fact you have built the car up in your mind that you think that if you post it someone will believe you and think your cool.

all i am saying is dont fabricate the truth to try and make yourself look cool. you have a 115chp cavi that you put a turbo on that you say is not running right YET it keeps up with a cobalt ss and you honestly believe that everyone is going to believe you?

nice job on putting a turbo on a car that is usually not turbo'd, its a clean install and nicely done, however stop trying to bullshit me about how "fast it is" because i know better. im not some 16 year old kid.
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:51 AM
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If I'm such a dumb ***, explain how the big time drag/street cars are running 8:1 SCR and making ~400whp N/A, and running twin 88mm turbos at ~30psig, and are making ~2000whp? 1psi/10hp is too ------- general to ever use, since it doesn't take into account the size of the turbo and the rest of the setup. Please explain then how those motors defy your laws of car math?
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:35 AM
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If I'm such a dumb ***, explain how the big time drag/street cars are running 8:1 SCR and making ~400whp N/A, and running twin 88mm turbos at ~30psig, and are making ~2000whp? 1psi/10hp is too ------- general to ever use, since it doesn't take into account the size of the turbo and the rest of the setup. Please explain then how those motors defy your laws of car math?
show me an example and I will give you an answer

those cars are not running pump gas, they are using methanol or some other non pump gas fuel, plus they use N20.


the 1psi/10hp rule of thumb is based off of street cars running pump gas and not using nitrous


now shut the ---- up and get off my nuts dipshit
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:39 AM
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oh and by the way, its not my laws of car math.

Kenne Bell probably has more boost knowledge in his pinky than you do.

so if you got a problem with his math, take it up with him you ------- punk
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:54 AM
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Nelson Racing Engines made well over 1100chp on HRM's Project F-Bomb on 91 Octane.. Then threw race gas and made about 1500chp.

http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/h...ild/index.html Basics
http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/h...bocharger.html Dyno Sheet towards bottom

All under 6000rpm and with a 700rpm idle and at 1 bar of boost. By that 1psi=10chp, that would either mean the motor makes 860ish chp N/A, which it does not, or it is running an ***-ton of boost, which it is not since it was only running 1 bar of boost. That a good enough example?


I think I win?
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Originally Posted by QikEnuF
If I'm such a dumb ***, explain how the big time drag/street cars are running 8:1 SCR and making ~400whp N/A, and running twin 88mm turbos at ~30psig, and are making ~2000whp? 1psi/10hp is too ------- general to ever use, since it doesn't take into account the size of the turbo and the rest of the setup. Please explain then how those motors defy your laws of car math?

400whp = ~500chp * .068 = 34hp/psi * 30psi = 1020hp + 500chp = 1520chp - 22% for drive train loss (auto tranny) = 1185whp + 500+ shot N20 = 1685+ whp

so, ya, the equation is just about right
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:36 PM
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"The "Unreal" power curve is on 110-octane race fuel, and it began to push the limits of the 83 lb/hr injectors as the engine delivered the nastiest, table-flat, 1,000 lb-ft torque curve you can imagine, plus 1,165 hp at the top end."

consirvitive crank hp na for that built 406ci small block would be 550chp *.068 = 37.4 *14.6 psi = 546hp +500chp= 1046chp

that seems close enough for me



"The "Wow" tune-up with a 91-octane-friendly 7 psi boost delivers 724 lb-ft at a low 4,800 rpm and 769 hp at an also-low 6,000 rpm."

consirvitive crank hp na for that built 406ci small block would be 550chp *.068 = 37.4 * 7psi = 261.8hp +500chp=761.8chp

wow, thats pretty ------- close isnt it?



and no, i dont think you win.


by the way, i said that the 1psi/10chp was based on the CAVI and most production engines.
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