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ok, so in the hole from the vc the goes usually connected to an intake i have a filter, i popped my hood after coming home from work and there was smoke coming out, wtf?! i dont have the stock pcv anymore, i pretty much have them venting out to nowhere. why the hell is there smoke coming from the vc?

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Because your motor gave up. Bad rings, ringlands, scored cylinder all= OWNED.

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its the oficial truth

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yep,
I had smoke coming from that & it ended up being the piston ring in the #4 cylinder,
it got worse & worse as I drove it..

oil will start appearing everywhere!,,spark plugs dripping,coming out the air intake,oil in the hair,in ur eye!

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:(

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fack! rebuild? fack!!!! so..whos in socal and wants to help? :'(

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I wouldn't get to excited if its just a small amount of smoke. You may also be mistaking it for condensation. I ran my car pretty hard for a year and a half at 10-12psi and always had a little bit of blowby but always stayed the same. If you're getting an excessive amount at idle then yes your motor is pooched. Don't forget every turbo'd car has blowby. I'm doing a swap in a accord that has so much blowby, it shoots the pcv(vented to atmosphere) out and paints the underneath of the hood with oil=awesome. Just turn the HVAC control to recirculate, add air freshner and drive on.

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LMAO, I almost fell out my chair when I read that.

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told you on another site.. rings and/or lands are going away.... blowby is owning you man....

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All Honda engines have blow-by issues, not just boosted ones. My friend just had his 1.7gsr motor rebuilt, drove it for the break in, and guess what...still has blow-by. If it's excessive though, def. your ringlands.

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yeah, teg is dead :'(

its smoking like a jamaican on april 20th....

yep, getting a lot of smoke, whatll happen is i keep driving it? crack the sleeve?

damn it, stupid car didnt last for ----. why did what happened happen? :3

anywho, b18c and tranny for a grand? good deal? i would need to reassemble the engine, and hone it according to the owner, would also need a valve cover, which isnt much....

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Dont forget to do a compression test before you rip it aparts.

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hahaha


Dude are you serious a blown b18c with tranny will go for a grand, hop on that, unless its stolen, then watch ur back.

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anybody? :1

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that sucks. get the numbers checked on the motor, to see if its stolen or not.

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im thinking people misunderstood...original engine is the one the fudged up...i can get the b18c for the 1k.

im gonna get a compression tester and just check the numbers out for the hell of it tomorrow.

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yeah i understood. i was sayin get the numbers off the b18c1 and get a report on it to see if its stolen or not.

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its legit, its from a friends car

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ohh ok then.

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bit of info from the other day: i was driving home doing 65, heading to the exit, and i got a cel. rpms dropped as if it were to stall. turned it on today and it wasnt doing it anymore. smoke still there, but it doesnt smell? its still coming from the breather and from the pcv line thats not hooked up. car was cold and it was "smoking"

im waiting for my pops to bring my other car home, so i can go to get a damn compression tester. ---- i hate being carless.

so peoples money is still on the ring/ringlands/scored walls?

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ok i take it back, it does have a smell to it, but not oil or coolant, smells like corn? :S or soemthing like that? :3

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and the results are in:

75 165 165 62

1 and 4 are gone, ----! :3

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build it. nows your excuse ;)

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cant be carless for too long. plan for now, replace with newer b18b, and possibly a ver mild build, i still only want two fitty hp, maybe 300 lol.

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yeah..so i finally got around to this thing. took me long enough. took everything apart, cylinder walls seem okay. rings are fine too, wtf? but the collar/neck center ring thing and some on the bottom one as well are broken and/or cracked on all the pistons.

only have camera phone and you cant really see ----, bro lost the damn camera.

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The rings themselves don't actually break. It's the ringlands in between that break, as you've obviously found out. You can hone it out and slap in new pistons and rings and she should be ok. Obviously if you're this far along, might as well build it.

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ill do that with the the other engine then that was always a plan

i really need a car, its a pain in the ass to work around peoples schedules and ----.


can i just throw on some other LS' used pistons? i should right?

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One of my buddies vitara setup did the exact same thing. A few days later he says there was a washer that somehow fell inside the head! Suffice to say that some people cant handle a boosted d.

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You can do that as long as the new rods you are tossing in have the same bearing code stamp as the old ones you took out, otherwise you'll have to buy new bearings to match the journal stamps. Example: if you removed a rod that was stamped with a 4, replace it with another rod stamped 4 and you can reuse the old bearing. Otherwise, the old rod stamped with #4 and the new rod stamped #2 means you have to order a new upper and lower rod bearing half to match up with the new tighter clearance. These motors aren't like old chevy small blocks...there are no "one size fits all" journal sizes.

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well i was gunna guess rings or ring lands but i didnt read it fast enough. blowby is normal on most hondas, but only a certain amount. blown hg can cause it too.

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whyd this happen? and oil pressure dropped when this happened if i remember correctly.

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ok im gonna need a lil more help. how do i figure out the bearing code and the journal code? i dont quite get that.

the side of the rod reads: PR4 59*
bottom of the err, whatever the bottom of the rod is called, lol, reads:31*-PR4

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somebody want to enlighten me? :1

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The rod bearing code sizes are stamped into the crank and will cross reference with the numbers stamped on the side of the rods. If you look at the one side you should see a number, either a 1, 2, 3, or 4. Sometimes the rods are mixed and matched to match up better with the crank journals so often times you will end up with a mix of all 4 numbers in your block. The cross-reference on the crank is stamped as a letter, A, B, C, or D. If the number stamped on your rod is #3, and the coinciding letter stamped for that particular rod journal is a C, then you would cross reference the 2 to find your appropriate bearing size. If you download the manual listed for the 90-93 Integra listed on this forum in the Hybrid/Tech section, there will be a chart you can use to find out what size and color bearing you need. Also look here for a bit more bearing size info... http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=715490

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ok pistons read


2 2 3 2

and the crank reads

B2 B2 B3 B2

so if i understand this, B2=yellow, and B3=green

i think i got that. say if i buy used pistons/rods.

and those rods are all 3s.

how do i go about that to figure out what bearings i need?

do i just forget that the crank reads B2, and just go with B? which would mean i would need all green bearings for the new rods?

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the crank shouldn't have a letter and a number...My rods are all 3 and the chart I got from honda shows that if the crank says B, the color is green. B and 2 = yellow.

EDIT: the numbers on the crank are for ordering the main bearings. you match those numbers to the numbers on the bearings (another chart) to get the color for the mains. I have both charts btw.

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i see...

with the 3 rods ill need green??

then for the mains itll be the yellow?

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for the mains, there should be letters on the the block that match to numbers on the crank. Tell me what the letters on the block are and I can tell you the color. Those letters might actually be on the main caps. I can't remember exactly... The chart says they are on the block, but that doesn't sound right to me. edit: with my rods, all the rod bearings would be green for you.

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ok i think i been using the wrong terminology :1

with the number on the rods and the number on the letter on the crank, i get the bearing size...and thats for both the top and bottom bearings? know what i mean? like the actual rod part has half a bearing and then the "cap" part that bolts on to the rod has the other half. since the crank has a B and the ods are a 3, then the chart gives us color green, with that i get both halves? sorry...im an idiot, lol. first time doing this :S

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You're on the right track. If B is the letter coding stamped on the crank, then you are correct with B-2, B-2, B-3, B-2. The other numbers stamped on the crank will match up in the same manner to letter codings that are stamped on the block itself, usually off to one side of the oil pan. That particular letter code will be a 5-letter code.