Forced Induction Custom FI Setup Questions

quick intercooling question..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-31-2007, 09:32 AM
  #31  
3.0 BAR
 
TorganFM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Your mom's panties
Posts: 3,696
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

How about a few of the heat exchangers in parallel for the air to water IC, or just a bigger one. What about a single core half radiator? When you shoot down every idea is ridiculous, you aren't giving yourself many options. Right now you have water to air IC but you're afraid of heat soak, which is understandable. Air to air ICs are out of the question because you don't want to do any kind of fitting or a little bit of difficult charge pipe plumbing. There's always meth injection, but you'll find something wrong with that I'm sure. So you can think of something, or you can die.
TorganFM is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 09:42 AM
  #32  
3.0 BAR
Thread Starter
 
sikcrx89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,015
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

Originally Posted by TorganFM
How about a few of the heat exchangers in parallel for the air to water IC, or just a bigger one. What about a single core half radiator? When you shoot down every idea is ridiculous, you aren't giving yourself many options. Right now you have water to air IC but you're afraid of heat soak, which is understandable. Air to air ICs are out of the question because you don't want to do any kind of fitting or a little bit of difficult charge pipe plumbing. There's always meth injection, but you'll find something wrong with that I'm sure. So you can think of something, or you can die.
im not shooting down everything.. i do not care to run more than 1 tank or the exchanger for the aftercooloer type setup i like i posted if that will make it more efficent.the most a heatexchanger is size wise i would get one the size of the old ac condensor if need be. that is not the exact one im am going to be using but something similar.. i will probably end up building my own box for it.. i have also thought about meth injection but i feel as if they wont be as practicle without some kind of huge resevoir..i am open to ideas but it needs to be efficent is all im saying.. this will not be a trip to cali car.. at most maybe rarely an 8hr drive to TN or 3 hr drive to WV.. nothing harcore.. and the car is already fitted with an EG half rad.. has been since it was turbo the first time..
sikcrx89 is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 09:48 AM
  #33  
3.0 BAR
 
TorganFM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Your mom's panties
Posts: 3,696
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

I meant using another half radiator as a heat exchanger for the air to water IC.
TorganFM is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 09:55 AM
  #34  
3.0 BAR
Thread Starter
 
sikcrx89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,015
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

Originally Posted by TorganFM
I meant using another half radiator as a heat exchanger for the air to water IC.
oh.. that may not be a bad idea.. or could i just use a thicker core half rad and defeat using the second all together?

this is the kit if you havent seen it already



keep in mind this is not the box i would be using but one designed for my engine bay
sikcrx89 is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 01:29 PM
  #35  
0.0 BAR
 
Tom-Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 0
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

Originally Posted by sikcrx89
i dont really want to cut any of the front bumper.. would a nice water-air setup work for what i want?? like the one i posted the link for?
I'm not fond of them for a streetcar. If you don't want to cut the bumper, eh, I can understand that. Maintaining CRXs as NICE first and foremost is an important thing with how scarce even beaten up ones are becoming.

Both Harry and Mindy Davis run water-air ICs on their Toyotas, I know Mindy picked up a LOT of temp drop from a bigger heat exchanger in the bumper over stock And Harry's car runs pretty cool for a water-air setup - IIRC, it's in the ~110 degree IAT range during the summer, either at idle, cruise, or from a WOT pull. I'm not sure what it runs in the winter, but I guarantee it'll be warmer than a non-IC setup due to how water-air setups heatsoak. I disagree with Harry about his oversized pump selections as I think he's running them without restrictors (which would introduce pressure into the system and bring a smaller pump's flowrate way up), but they can tell you about in-bumper core sizes. They probably have some good sized OEM Toyota units, too, that would either be big enough for you, or you could easily run two of them.

sales@mr2guru.com will put you in direct touch with Mindy, she also posts here as MR2 Gurl but I don't think she logs on more than once a week. Don't be timid about tech because she's a she, as she knows more about cars than most HMTers.

Do you have a Tractor Supply or Northern Tool where you're at? I might be able to bomb in and take pics of the $45 1 gph petite pump I recommend for water-air and light duty water injection.

Tom-Guy is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 01:39 PM
  #36  
1.5 BAR
 
klyph's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 749
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

Hacking up an old bumper and using a FMIC sounds like the easiest/best solution.

It's a modified car, if you want 500hp, you'll have to modify it a LOT.
klyph is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 02:26 PM
  #37  
1.0 BAR
 
dmotoguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 272
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
First POST **** YOU NOOB ----.
second YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ---- YOUR TALKING ABOUT, SO SHUT THE ---- UP!
LOL, ****... understandable.. but im at work, maybe later.

how do I not know what I'm talking about? water i/c's are ------- stupid for most street cars. /topic.
If he's so worried about his crx bumper get another one from the yard and cut it up and save his stock one.

Originally Posted by QikEnuF
1. Go post **** you african american.
2. Most high hp cars are running air/water setups.
3. Since when has 500hp been considered "high" in the world of drag racing?
4. Go die in a fire of aids
5. Hotrex?
Most high power cars are running air/water?? ------- noooooooob. they are all air/air, or meth now. you never see air/water anymore.. since what, ~2003 when hotrod changed to meth.

he is talking about a street car right?? then 500 is pretty high.. high enough that you should have a pretty good idea of what you are doing and dont ask stupid questions about ---- like this.

dmotoguy is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 02:40 PM
  #38  
3.0 BAR
 
TorganFM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Your mom's panties
Posts: 3,696
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

On a drag strip you can't beat dry ice in an air to water... unless you tape bags of dry ice to the front of an fmic.
TorganFM is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 05:26 PM
  #39  
1.5 BAR
 
klyph's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 749
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

Originally Posted by TorganFM
On a drag strip
He has stated multiple times that this is a street car. Lets not clutter this thread with bullshit.
klyph is offline  
Old 10-31-2007, 05:36 PM
  #40  
3.0 BAR
Thread Starter
 
sikcrx89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,015
Default Re: quick intercooling question..

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I'm not fond of them for a streetcar. If you don't want to cut the bumper, eh, I can understand that. Maintaining CRXs as NICE first and foremost is an important thing with how scarce even beaten up ones are becoming.

Both Harry and Mindy Davis run water-air ICs on their Toyotas, I know Mindy picked up a LOT of temp drop from a bigger heat exchanger in the bumper over stock And Harry's car runs pretty cool for a water-air setup - IIRC, it's in the ~110 degree IAT range during the summer, either at idle, cruise, or from a WOT pull. I'm not sure what it runs in the winter, but I guarantee it'll be warmer than a non-IC setup due to how water-air setups heatsoak. I disagree with Harry about his oversized pump selections as I think he's running them without restrictors (which would introduce pressure into the system and bring a smaller pump's flowrate way up), but they can tell you about in-bumper core sizes. They probably have some good sized OEM Toyota units, too, that would either be big enough for you, or you could easily run two of them.

sales@mr2guru.com will put you in direct touch with Mindy, she also posts here as MR2 Gurl but I don't think she logs on more than once a week. Don't be timid about tech because she's a she, as she knows more about cars than most HMTers.

Do you have a Tractor Supply or Northern Tool where you're at? I might be able to bomb in and take pics of the $45 1 gph petite pump I recommend for water-air and light duty water injection.

so all in all if i can get a big enough exchanger i will have no real headaches as far as completely heatsoaked pile of ----?? i will definatly get in contact with her and see whats up.. and i dont have a tractor supply close i dont think but home depot and others are a rocks throw *cough* (grainger) *cough* away.. any info/points in the right direction are always appreciated!!
sikcrx89 is offline  


Quick Reply: quick intercooling question..



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:46 PM.