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Old 04-25-2009, 03:27 PM
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With just 100hp/l, I'd ------- hope it drives like it's supposed to.


Fast. Cheap. Reliable. Pick 2.
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2nd that comment
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Originally Posted by AaronZ34
PVC pipe fails, turbo over-revs, blows seals, leaks mucho oil. Oil enters engine, oil doesn't compress too well. And that's if the oil level doesn't go so low that your bearings go right round right round first.


So many? This is HMT remember.
ok dude your a *** and ill list why
1.turbo wont over rev if you let off when/if the piping blows off
2.why would the oil seals blow
3.how would the oil get into the engine if the piping is blown off
4.a turbo does not take enough oil to imediatly run you that low of oil if the seals did go out

so unless you know something about teleportation of oil into the combustion chamber the defies the laws of physics please shut the ---- up. also 99% of the time when large amounts of oil get into the combustion chamber the plugs foul out and stops the engine from running before and real damage can happen


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And surely that's cheaper than a few feet of aluminum tubing.
its alot cheaper then 30 per bend for aluminum

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If you want to be completely *** broke about it, then I guess you could use brakleen cans.
a guy on here ran in the 11s with brakleen cans

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wow i never thought about using empty spray cans. any pics of someone doing this already?
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...s-video-3.html

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haha i never heard that but hell a pipe is a pipe.
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go to the ------- junk yard and find stock turbo piping from a few different cars and plumb it all together with couplers and t-bolt clamps!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!! Sweet Jesus on the bloody cross WTF is wrong with you?
your not the first person to think of that none of the turbo cars in the junk yards around me have their piping so maybe the op is in the same situation

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With just 100hp/l, I'd ------- hope it drives like it's supposed to.
Fast. Cheap. Reliable. Pick 2.
who says it has 200hp d16s with t25s run 200whp all the time


many people on here have picked all three with plenty of sucess. you just may not be smart/clever enough to have all three


so stop being such a ------- know it all ***** this site is homemadeturbo it was built on the principle of using pvc for intercooler piping. not everyone has more then 3k to spend on some ---- box fiero there is a reason why pontiac stop making those.

in summation to anyone that wants to use pvc pipe go for it worst thing to happen is you will need to replace it every once and a while or use think walled abs plastic

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YouTube - PVC Cooler piping experiment
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ok dude your a *** and ill list why
1.turbo wont over rev if you let off when/if the piping blows off
2.why would the oil seals blow
3.how would the oil get into the engine if the piping is blown off
4.a turbo does not take enough oil to imediatly run you that low of oil if the seals did go out
1. If you even know when your pipe blows off, there is not a human in the world who will respond faster than the turbo over-spins, because it does so damn near instantly.
2. Because of the turbo's rpm...Just like when your oil pressure/flow is too high.
3. Because the oil seals failed, which allows oil into the intake tract. Surely you've seen what happens when there is no oil restrictor in a turbo that needs one. Same thing, but the failure is a result of the RPM.
4. Maybe not immediately, but there's no one here who immediately stops the car when this happens.

so unless you know something about teleportation of oil into the combustion chamber the defies the laws of physics please shut the ---- up. also 99% of the time when large amounts of oil get into the combustion chamber the plugs foul out and stops the engine from running before and real damage can happen
Physics does allow oil to leak past a blown oil seal. The damage of excess oil in the chamber is done whether the plug is firing or not. If the cylinder has compression, it'll ---- ---- up. Otherwise water in the cylinder would be no big deal, yet I see hundreds of motors every year with bent rods because of it. How would that happen? I suppose because the cylinder is trying to compress a nearly incompressible substance, and something has to give.

its alot cheaper then 30 per bend for aluminum
30 per bend? Can you not use eBay? Buy a cheap CAI kit for a Honda, $30, it'll have 6 mandrel bends in it. My entire intake tract cost be $30 worth of tubing, and I've got a lot more than one bend.

a guy on here ran in the 11s with brakleen cans
And we landed on the moon. Doesn't mean every space flight was a huge success does it? Success isn't measured by one 11 second pass, it's measured by hundreds upon hundreds, with no maintenance in between.

who says it has 200hp d16s with t25s run 200whp all the time


I haven't seen many, errr any, dynoes showing otherwise.

many people on here have picked all three with plenty of sucess. you just may not be smart/clever enough to have all three
Bullshit. You only get two. Fast is low 11s, and there aren't many cars that do that here. The ones that do, aren't cheap. There's a reason people spend money on top shelf components, it's because they are worth it. Just because you can beat a new Vette with your halfass turbo build, does not make GM engineers retards. They just have to account for FAR more than you ever will. Like making it to 200,000 miles. Like driving WOT for extended periods of time, on 85 octane. Like sitting on the rev limiter not 4 seconds after cold start. Like having cold A/C. People that do it right, and spend the money, get better results, because they are using better components. You cannot tell me that I could have the exact same performance with a used junkyard turbo, as I have with my dual ball bearing water cooled Garrett. Same goes for my wastegate, BOV, and everything else I used. Fact is, I bought those components because I've seen firsthand what happens when they fail, and it's ugly. So I spent the money on the best components, so that they wouldn't fail. Not in 10,000 miles or a few 1/4mi passes, but in 100,000 miles, and hundreds of 1320s. Not to mention it has to get me to work everyday, in Colorado. And it does.

so stop being such a ------- know it all ***** this site is homemadeturbo it was built on the principle of using pvc for intercooler piping. not everyone has more then 3k to spend on some ---- box fiero there is a reason why pontiac stop making those.
So a homemade turbo is defined as having PVC intercooler pipe? This site is built on the principal of DIY, and despite 99% of the builds here, some people can DIY good turbo kits, with the best of parts. Doesn't make them any less DIY, just makes them better.

in summation to anyone that wants to use pvc pipe go for it worst thing to happen is you will need to replace it every once and a while or use think walled abs plastic
That's the absolute worst that can happen? So a charge piping failure at 7,000rpm and 15psi won't hurt anything? Weird, I blew up my last engine when that happened, and I snapped the throttle closed the instant I saw the boost gauge drop/felt the car stop pulling.

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Originally Posted by txdohczc
That was, without a doubt in my mind, the most comprehensive test I have ever seen. The variables and controls were kept well within reasonable boundaries, the test was done hundreds of times in any and all situations, and the variable was tested in the most extreme conditions it will ever see.
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I didn't get aluminum charge pipe because I got tired of seeing $30 a bend worth of cash in my bank account, and wanted it gone. I got it because I needed it, because the conditions I exposed it to, and the expectations I had of it, are far beyond those that PVC could deliver on. You can't see half my charge pipe in this picture. The engine bay temperatures I get are probably higher than any other car here. How often do you think I'd need to replace my charge piping if PVC was used? Bear in mind, that if I ever have to replace it, it's because it failed. And I didn't build my car to fail. I built it to be every bit as reliable as it was from the factory. That means NO piping failures.

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ok you missed the point of every thing i was talking about either becuase you are to cocky to come down from your throne and read, or you just have no reading comprehension skills. so lets do this again
Originally Posted by AaronZ34
1. If you even know when your pipe blows off, there is not a human in the world who will respond faster than the turbo over-spins, because it does so damn near instantly.
2. Because of the turbo's rpm...Just like when your oil pressure/flow is too high.
3. Because the oil seals failed, which allows oil into the intake tract. Surely you've seen what happens when there is no oil restrictor in a turbo that needs one. Same thing, but the failure is a result of the RPM.
4. Maybe not immediately, but there's no one here who immediately stops the car when this happens.
1.it would be hard not to notice intant drop of boost
2.yous still not saying why the seals will go out
3.how is oil going to get into the tract if the pipe came off it would just **** out of the piping where it failed
4.i would definetly stop the car when all of the sudden i hear a big bang and i have not boost




Physics does allow oil to leak past a blown oil seal. The damage of excess oil in the chamber is done whether the plug is firing or not. If the cylinder has compression, it'll ---- ---- up. Otherwise water in the cylinder would be no big deal, yet I see hundreds of motors every year with bent rods because of it. How would that happen? I suppose because the cylinder is trying to compress a nearly incompressible substance, and something has to give.

ok you still not have said how the oil would get into the combustion chamber if there is not pipe there to lead it to the combustion chamber
30 per bend? Can you not use eBay? Buy a cheap CAI kit for a Honda, $30, it'll have 6 mandrel bends in it. My entire intake tract cost be $30 worth of tubing, and I've got a lot more than one bend.
cai kits only have three shitty bends you still have to buy u-bends and others to get from the intercooler to the turbo



And we landed on the moon. Doesn't mean every space flight was a huge success does it? Success isn't measured by one 11 second pass, it's measured by hundreds upon hundreds, with no maintenance in between.
11 secs in a car that factory went 16 is pretty damn fast and is considered a fast car. i dont think you read the whole thread
I haven't seen many, errr any, dynoes showing otherwise.
well typically a turbo integra has more than 200hp i havent see one ahowing less then 250 so is it safe to say he has 250

Bullshit. You only get two. Fast is low 11s, and there aren't many cars that do that here. The ones that do, aren't cheap. There's a reason people spend money on top shelf components, it's because they are worth it. Just because you can beat a new Vette with your halfass turbo build, does not make GM engineers retards. They just have to account for FAR more than you ever will. Like making it to 200,000 miles. Like driving WOT for extended periods of time, on 85 octane. Like sitting on the rev limiter not 4 seconds after cold start. Like having cold A/C. People that do it right, and spend the money, get better results, because they are using better components. You cannot tell me that I could have the exact same performance with a used junkyard turbo, as I have with my dual ball bearing water cooled Garrett. Same goes for my wastegate, BOV, and everything else I used. Fact is, I bought those components because I've seen firsthand what happens when they fail, and it's ugly. So I spent the money on the best components, so that they wouldn't fail. Not in 10,000 miles or a few 1/4mi passes, but in 100,000 miles, and hundreds of 1320s. Not to mention it has to get me to work everyday, in Colorado. And it does. dont talk about corvettes making 200k none of the newer ones ever will those cars are ---- boxes and obviously gm aint worth a ---- becuase they are going to have to file for bankruptsy. and there are/were plenty of dudes on here running cina turbos for without fail with more than 15k on them


So a homemade turbo is defined as having PVC intercooler pipe? This site is built on the principal of DIY, and despite 99% of the builds here, some people can DIY good turbo kits, with the best of parts. Doesn't make them any less DIY, your thoughts on everything are extremely biased. i was obviously saying that this site was built with pvc pipes and jb weld im not saying thats what makes it. good for you you have a ---- load of money to spend on a turbo but money does not compensate for knowledge



That's the absolute worst that can happen? So a charge piping failure at 7,000rpm and 15psi won't hurt anything? Weird, I blew up my last engine when that happened, and I snapped the throttle closed the instant I saw the boost gauge drop/felt the car stop pulling.
well sorry that happened to you but charge pipes fall off time to time and there are videos of it happening with no consequences. maybe get a srtonger engine, also only an idiot would try to run a pvc pipe for 15psi. he said he was going for ~7psi so i imagine if it could cause damage it would not cause as much as 15psi
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