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Old 02-08-2005, 12:25 AM
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Did you read that the increased overlap might be preventing contamination from the reversion effects of the log manifolds?




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Yeah I did read that but it's kind of counter intuitive, I don't know for sure that it's not true but why would haveing both valves open at the same time cause less exhaust to go back into the chamber.

And I woudn't have been able to spew all that out If I were drunk. But sorry bout the spelling.
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And I woudn't have been able to spew all that out If I were drunk. But sorry bout the spelling.

lol, I wasn't talking about you being drunk
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See, ---- like this is just better with pictures and diagrams. Where the piston is, what postition the valves are in. You know, english. It's just hard to draw pictures in your head with numbers like -4 and +2.



I guess it's just all new to me and I haven't read about how "normal" people even tune these things.
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See, ---- like this is just better with pictures and diagrams. Where the piston is, what postition the valves are in. You know, english. It's just hard to draw pictures in your head with numbers like -4 and +2.



I guess it's just all new to me and I haven't read about how "normal" people even tune these things.
It's pretty damn self explanatory. That's the cam gears adjustment. Most cam gears will have little number or tooths to count.
It's not that hard to understand really.
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thats degrees people
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:09 AM
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different engines will like different type of overlap or less of. It depends on the set up, which differs from one another. I tuned cars on the dyno that like increasing the over lap and some that don't. The only way to know if you are tunning your camgears right is to do it on the dyno. 98ctr
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This is confusing because more overlap causes less cylinder pressure. the reason people raise compression, use nitrous, or turbos is to increase cylinder pressure. now he says he uses more over lap and less timing. So thnk about having a car that has too much boost or compression, and you're detonating, you would use more overlap or less timing to fix the problem. How would more overlap (less cylinder pressure) and less timing cause more power. That doesn't make much sense unless the initial tune was so bad that the spark was blowing out. I don't know but taht doesn't make much sense to me.Maybe hes got it backward and hes actually getting less over lap.

The theory behind this is having the exhaust gases exit through the exhaust valves while opening the intake valves. The flow of the exhaust gases going out the exhaust valves are supposed to help draw air in through the intake valves at the same time.

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I don't know for sure that it's not true but why would haveing both valves open at the same time cause less exhaust to go back into the chamber.
when working with FI if you open up the intake valve the compressed air is going to come in and push the exhaust gases that are hanging around in the exhaust ports out, you'll lose a little bit of boost, but if you time it just right you could find the balance between forcing exhaust out and letting boost out.
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I don't know for sure that it's not true but why would haveing both valves open at the same time cause less exhaust to go back into the chamber.
when working with FI if you open up the intake valve the compressed air is going to come in and push the exhaust gases that are hanging around in the exhaust ports out, you'll loose a little bit of boost, but if you time it just right you could find the balance between forcing exhaust out and letting boost out.
Hmm..never thought of it that way, that sounds like a reason explaination too.

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