New turbo project (Check this out)
01-06-2004, 07:09 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
My one word of wisdom to you would be to drill those holes out bigger in that blockguard. Did you make that ---- or something? Why did it not have holes in it in one of those pics? Seriously though, those holes need to be bigger. I doubt you will take my advice about this, but please just think about it before you ignore it. Take it from someone who has had overheating problems with blockguards. I'm not just talking out of my *** here. You seem to know what you are doing and it looks to be a nice setup you have there so I would hate to see it go to ---- over a stupid thing like that. Good luck. Post more pics as the progress goes on. 
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01-06-2004, 08:58 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
i don't have make this block guard it's because on one pics the camera haven't take a good picture 
You tell me then it have not enough hole in this block guard?
It have at least one hole for each hole in the head gasket!
If you are sure then it not have enough hole i will do more!
It building it to be daily dreiven but i'm a Truck driver so i'm at home 1 or 2 days a week so the car will not run all the days
by the way thanx for the advice!
i will send this at the machine shop!
You tell me then it have not enough hole in this block guard?
It have at least one hole for each hole in the head gasket!
If you are sure then it not have enough hole i will do more!
It building it to be daily dreiven but i'm a Truck driver so i'm at home 1 or 2 days a week so the car will not run all the days
by the way thanx for the advice!
i will send this at the machine shop!
01-06-2004, 09:26 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
Well, more holes would be great, but the holes that it has need to be bigger FOR SURE. Also, it needs to be recessed into the cavity at least 1/2" or it will overheat no matter what you do. Just make sure there is a gap between the top of the cylinder and the blockguard.
Thanks for taking my advice. I wish I would have listened before I made these mistakes.
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Thanks for taking my advice. I wish I would have listened before I made these mistakes.
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01-06-2004, 09:49 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
Just make sure there is a gap between the top of the cylinder and the blockguard.
01-06-2004, 09:53 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
About the manifold... There have been reports of it cracking as mentioned earlier.
On the newer versions, they added 2 support braces connecting the flanges. This might cure the problem in some cases but... After seeing the size of that turbo, I would add another form of support.
Maybe off the block.
On the newer versions, they added 2 support braces connecting the flanges. This might cure the problem in some cases but... After seeing the size of that turbo, I would add another form of support.
Maybe off the block.
01-06-2004, 09:54 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
No. The high stress area is a few inches down. The absolute top is not the high stress zone. Ask you machinest. I'm sure he will tell you the same.
Even the manufacturer of those blockguards recommends you install them recessed as oppossed to flush. They have to be recessed or the coolant will be highly restricted and cause overheating. Just think about what is going to happen after you tighten the head down. Where is the coolant going to flow? Remember how it worked before the blockguard was installed. It was free flowing. Now you have an obstacle in the way and if that obstacle is pressed against the head it's going to block off vital coolant passages.
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Even the manufacturer of those blockguards recommends you install them recessed as oppossed to flush. They have to be recessed or the coolant will be highly restricted and cause overheating. Just think about what is going to happen after you tighten the head down. Where is the coolant going to flow? Remember how it worked before the blockguard was installed. It was free flowing. Now you have an obstacle in the way and if that obstacle is pressed against the head it's going to block off vital coolant passages.
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01-06-2004, 09:57 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
About the manifold... There have been reports of it cracking as mentioned earlier.
On the newer versions, they added 2 support braces connecting the flanges. This might cure the problem in some cases but... After seeing the size of that turbo, I would add another form of support.
Maybe off the block.
On the newer versions, they added 2 support braces connecting the flanges. This might cure the problem in some cases but... After seeing the size of that turbo, I would add another form of support.
Maybe off the block.
01-06-2004, 10:01 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
this is how they tell me to install the block guard! i have just sent a e-mail to the company of this blockguard to know if it's better to make the hole bigger! we will see what they will answer!
Easy to install. Wipe the outside cylinder surface and opposing block surface with acetone. If you do not intend to weld the fitted guard in place (KMS recommends welding the fitted guard in place) then apply a small amount of red loc-tite to 6-8 points along the guard side. Next, position the block guard with the arrow facing up and toward the front (timing belt side) and tap into place with a rubber mallet. Fit the guard even with or slightly below the deck surface.
Easy to install. Wipe the outside cylinder surface and opposing block surface with acetone. If you do not intend to weld the fitted guard in place (KMS recommends welding the fitted guard in place) then apply a small amount of red loc-tite to 6-8 points along the guard side. Next, position the block guard with the arrow facing up and toward the front (timing belt side) and tap into place with a rubber mallet. Fit the guard even with or slightly below the deck surface.
01-06-2004, 10:07 PM
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Re:New turbo project (Check this out)
That is the same company that made the one I used(it fucked my motor up to say the least).
Ask around and I'm sure you will get the same response I give you. It needs to be below the deck surface. Before you go ahead with this, please ask around for other opinions. I'm not filling your head with ---- here man. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but this I am sure of.
Where is sean88accord to throw some crazy "molecular structure of the zoning paramiter" jive at you.
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Ask around and I'm sure you will get the same response I give you. It needs to be below the deck surface. Before you go ahead with this, please ask around for other opinions. I'm not filling your head with ---- here man. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but this I am sure of.
Where is sean88accord to throw some crazy "molecular structure of the zoning paramiter" jive at you.
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