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I'm in the process now of building a new turbo project with a B16A2 engine!! check this out guy and give me some news
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probably no replies because your link no workie
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I'm sorry here is a good working link please give me some news about what you think of my setup
http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/ |
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Ohh god that looks nice!
Good luck man! |
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looks very nice :)
what are your plans for fuel management? |
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Everything looks good, nice setup.....was that block guard i saw :-\ good luck with that
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What size is that turbo. Looks pretty big for a 1.6L will it spool before the rev limiter? I already see a lot of money on this setup so please tell us that the block guard was being used for a paper weight.
good luck steve 8) |
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IF you are able drill a lot of holes into your blockguard and you will never have problem. WIth that manifold don't boost more than 15 psi, until it willl crack, and change your Wastegate for a Tial ;)
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Was it just me, or did that blockguard not have ANY holes in it? ???
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mmmm..sexy turbo....
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that manifold looks just like the one from SSautochrome.....the one everyone told me to stay away from. looks like someone didnt get the advise soon enough.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Was it just me, or did that blockguard not have ANY holes in it? ???
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um blockguards blow ass..... and when they dont have holes they blow motors quicker..
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Fuel management will be done with an AEM EMS with a J/G Edelbrock intake with dual fuel rail someone have an way to calculate the necesseray injector size ? i will be able to put 8 injectors. i don't know if 8 DSM 440CC will be enough ?
The Turbo is a Garrett GT3037 Full ball bearing it's the same as this one check the specs http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/gagt56tr.html It's supposed then this turbo will spool faster then a normal T3/T4 because of it's full ball bearing! and yes the manifold was the one from ssautochrome i have not see anything about about him before i bought it so now i'm stuck with it but it seems to be not so bad so i will see! and here some other picture.! http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/bguard_1.gif http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/bguard_2.gif http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/bguard_3.gif http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/block.gif http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/cover.gif And this is where i am working on it! you see then i'm pretty well equipped! http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/garage_1.gif http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/garage_2.gif |
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wtf is that grey thing in the corner in the last picture? oven for powder coating?
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Originally Posted by bigwig
wtf is that grey thing in the corner in the last picture? oven for powder coating?
-bignig its a sand/bead/whatever you want blasing cabinet. see the 2 hole? you put your arms in there while blasting. the side opens to put in the object you wish to blast. the oven is in the 2nd to last pic next to the welder top right. edit: do those knicks around the bore on that one pic scare anyone else? :) easy with the mallet! |
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Those knicks will be soldered when i come back home and the block will be flatened in the machine shop and the sleeve will be bored as soon as i get my new pistons! there are suppose to arrive one day to another :) i have order them 10 bigger because i was soldering the block guard.
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soldered??????!?
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so what are your goals for this project? How much WHP and 1/4 mile times. 20-30 psi?
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I want it daily driven at about 15psi and on the race track about 25psi! probably over 400whp but not sure yet!! we will see what it will done! but i want to be in the 11s on the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by Speedy2k
I want it daily driven
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My one word of wisdom to you would be to drill those holes out bigger in that blockguard. Did you make that ---- or something? Why did it not have holes in it in one of those pics? Seriously though, those holes need to be bigger. I doubt you will take my advice about this, but please just think about it before you ignore it. Take it from someone who has had overheating problems with blockguards. I'm not just talking out of my ass here. You seem to know what you are doing and it looks to be a nice setup you have there so I would hate to see it go to ---- over a stupid thing like that. Good luck. Post more pics as the progress goes on. :)
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i don't have make this block guard it's because on one pics the camera haven't take a good picture :(
You tell me then it have not enough hole in this block guard? It have at least one hole for each hole in the head gasket! If you are sure then it not have enough hole i will do more! It building it to be daily dreiven but i'm a Truck driver so i'm at home 1 or 2 days a week so the car will not run all the days :) by the way thanx for the advice! i will send this at the machine shop! |
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Well, more holes would be great, but the holes that it has need to be bigger FOR SURE. Also, it needs to be recessed into the cavity at least 1/2" or it will overheat no matter what you do. Just make sure there is a gap between the top of the cylinder and the blockguard.
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Just make sure there is a gap between the top of the cylinder and the blockguard. |
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About the manifold... There have been reports of it cracking as mentioned earlier.
On the newer versions, they added 2 support braces connecting the flanges. This might cure the problem in some cases but... After seeing the size of that turbo, I would add another form of support. Maybe off the block. |
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No. The high stress area is a few inches down. The absolute top is not the high stress zone. Ask you machinest. I'm sure he will tell you the same.
Even the manufacturer of those blockguards recommends you install them recessed as oppossed to flush. They have to be recessed or the coolant will be highly restricted and cause overheating. Just think about what is going to happen after you tighten the head down. Where is the coolant going to flow? Remember how it worked before the blockguard was installed. It was free flowing. Now you have an obstacle in the way and if that obstacle is pressed against the head it's going to block off vital coolant passages. __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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About the manifold... There have been reports of it cracking as mentioned earlier. On the newer versions, they added 2 support braces connecting the flanges. This might cure the problem in some cases but... After seeing the size of that turbo, I would add another form of support. Maybe off the block. |
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this is how they tell me to install the block guard! i have just sent a e-mail to the company of this blockguard to know if it's better to make the hole bigger! we will see what they will answer!
Easy to install. Wipe the outside cylinder surface and opposing block surface with acetone. If you do not intend to weld the fitted guard in place (KMS recommends welding the fitted guard in place) then apply a small amount of red loc-tite to 6-8 points along the guard side. Next, position the block guard with the arrow facing up and toward the front (timing belt side) and tap into place with a rubber mallet. Fit the guard even with or slightly below the deck surface. |
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That is the same company that made the one I used(it fucked my motor up to say the least).
Ask around and I'm sure you will get the same response I give you. It needs to be below the deck surface. Before you go ahead with this, please ask around for other opinions. I'm not filling your head with ---- here man. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but this I am sure of. Where is sean88accord to throw some crazy "molecular structure of the zoning paramiter" jive at you. :o __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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I will do what you tell me for sure i just want to know if they will tell me the same things :)
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My motor got fucked. The first time I installed the blockguard I installed it flush. Bad idea. Overheated very bad and I couldn't stop it with the best cooling system available. I could drive under no load for quite a while without overheating, but if I went up a hill or hit boost it would heat up on me. It really sucked driving around with the heater on when it was 120+ degrees out. :(
Anyways, after that little fiasco I tore the head back off and moved the blockguard down about a half inch. This seemed to help, but if I did any high psi pulls it would heat back up. I couldn't figure out why it was doing this until I started thinking about how small those holes were. I posted on here a long time ago with this problem and got alot of good suggestions which got me thinking. I ended up tearing the head back off and drilling the piss out of the blockguard enlarging ALL of the holes so the coolant would flow better and not cause me to overheat. By this time the overheating had taken it's toll on my poor little abused D15. The head was warped and I later learned that the cylinders had warped as well. :'( This was of course after I replaced EVERY piece of the cooling system which consisted of two radiators, two thermostats, three radiator caps, one water pump,...because I was in total disbeliefe that the blockguard was still causing these problems. Dr.Boost __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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Originally Posted by 88dx
What size is that turbo. Looks pretty big for a 1.6L will it spool before the rev limiter? I already see a lot of money on this setup so please tell us that the block guard was being used for a paper weight.
good luck steve 8) |
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Ok Semnos i am a newbie but that turbo on a street b16 would have way too much lag but thats my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
My one word of wisdom to you would be to drill those holes out bigger in that blockguard. Did you make that ---- or something? Why did it not have holes in it in one of those pics? Seriously though, those holes need to be bigger. I doubt you will take my advice about this, but please just think about it before you ignore it. Take it from someone who has had overheating problems with blockguards. I'm not just talking out of my ass here. You seem to know what you are doing and it looks to be a nice setup you have there so I would hate to see it go to ---- over a stupid thing like that. Good luck. Post more pics as the progress goes on. :)
After you enlarge the holes... Don't forget to angle the edges. It helps increase flow by reducing drag as the coolant flows through. |
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Originally Posted by 88dx
Ok Semnos i am a newbie but that turbo on a street b16 would have way too much lag but thats my opinion.
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Quote Speedy2K: Fuel management will be done with an AEM EMS with a J/G Edelbrock intake with dual fuel rail someone have an way to calculate the necesseray injector size ?
Here's the equation to calculate what size injectors you need: ((power x BSFC) x (1 + saftey margin)) / number of injectors = pounds/hour (use a 15-20% saftey margin) If you have the EMS you'll know what this equation means. I would just do one row of big ass injectors because no injectors are too large for the EMS. Lots of people are having problems with the twin row of injectors trying to get them to run right |
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I have just receive my new TOGA high flow oil pump and TOGA main and rod bearings.
http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/oil_pump.gif http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/bearings.gif |
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I have just received my new:
Edlebrock VictorX Intake Manifold ARP Head Stud SRP 9.5:1 Pistons and Rings set I'm suppose to have the new head gasket but my girlfrend doesn't have take any picture of it i will have to call her to know i have have it because i'm not home right now i'm in Indianapolis, IN so here is some picture! http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/1.jpg http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/2.jpg http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/3.jpg http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/4.jpg http://pages.infinit.net/speedy2k/pictures/5.jpg The only parts i need now is the rod and the Stainless Valve if someone have a queue where i can get it really cheap or a brand in particular thanx a lot! |
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I totally agree with boost on that block guard, its better to post it IMO. But nice setup.
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