Originally Posted by xenocron

I dont know Chris in that fashion...someone like Belben is more of a student of the game, which I relate to more...Chris (seems to me) like he is more of the try everything a few times until you find something that works and then continue to use that and continually tweak and try new things.

Not saying either is more right or more wrong...

Originally Posted by chris

Mr.Harris is right my life has always more just try it then theory.My father being an engineer kinda made me hate the well it wont work according to etc.My approach was if I had an idea try it,if I failed oh well atleast it was a thought.Back on topic I have sohc vtec heads done waiting for someone to try them on one of these big power d series builds. Once I get off my ass Ill post pics/tech info in my classfieds section.

Originally Posted by chris

Mr.Harris is right my life has always more just try it then theory.My father being an engineer kinda made me hate the well it wont work according to etc.My approach was if I had an idea try it,if I failed oh well atleast it was a thought.Back on topic I have sohc vtec heads done waiting for someone to try them on one of these big power d series builds. Once I get off my ass Ill post pics/tech info in my classfieds section.

Originally Posted by crxvtec91

I would love to see the before and after with nothing but just the head change.

Originally Posted by xenocron

I'd fly anywhere...even Canada

Originally Posted by chris

They are 700 shipped with stock valvetrain I supply the core or 600 shipped you send in a head of your own. A upgraded manifold/throttle body is also a must. A head I did years ago on low boost small turbo set up. Same boost evels of 6 psi before and after

Originally Posted by Atticus

and what would that set us back?




holy ----
kind of ironic since for most ppl these a budget build

Originally Posted by Atticus

and what would that set us back?




holy ----
kind of ironic since for most ppl these a budget build

Originally Posted by xenocron

I have tuned a lot of low comp D motors lately, a couple Vitara setups, a couple other low comp JE or SRP Piston setups...and they all seem to be limited around the mid 300 to 400 whp on my dyno. I havent pin pointed anything specific, but I think its head limited. The variety of setups is such that I cant keep them straight when I think about each (who had which IM, who had which Turbo Mani, etc).

I really think with a well setup head, a PROPER valve job and a well "tuned" port job...500 whp on one of these vitara builds is doable on pump.
A lot of people come and say that they have a "Port and Polish" and I always ask "who did it?" and the answer is some local machinist. None of these guys study the D motor...they are lifers, gear heads, domestic enthusiasts...

I want to see someone with a Mike Belben head, RLZ, Endyn or Bisi...these guys KNOW the tricks that make these heads flow with a proper cam.

Originally Posted by crxvtec91

You pay for what you get for.

Originally Posted by chris

You obviously havent looked at head prices. 2ndly these builds are hardly budget anymore. Only thing budget is the pistons the rest is the same cost for any other build.