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My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
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Well this is a friend of mine that got his car tuned today and here's the setup....
Car--92 civic cx Y8 Head slightly ported and milled .020 crower stg 2 turbo camshaft crower springs and retainers edelbrock performer x intake mani 67 mm tb evo 560cc injectors y7 Block std size 75 mm ycp vitara pistons eagle rods stock crank acl bearings Drivetrain lsd clutch 12 lb flywheel z6 tranny with obx lsd installed by nago aka funny guy Turbo setup eville140 special ramhorn manifold evo twin scroll 16g hks ssqv 3 in dp 2 in exhaust :1 Tuned on ectune by chris aka xeno aka the master of tuning :6 Btw this is on 93 pump gas.... Well ladies onto the pics :-* 3rd gear pull Attachment 14260 4th gear pull Attachment 14261 Engine bay shot Attachment 14262 JD's favorite civic chassis :P Attachment 14263 This explains it all Attachment 14264 |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
417whp on a 16G and some 560cc injectors?! If that's true; it's very good numbers for the set-up. I know the twin scroll 16g's are making over 500whp occasionally, so I suppose it's not completely unfathomable. What gets me is that it's on 560cc injectors. Last I checked you needed more than that for those hp levels, especially on pump gas without even meth injection. I used this calculator, so it's a very rough estimate, but still.
http://www.witchhunter.com/injectorcalc1.php4 So I entered your information into the calculator as 417hp at the flywheel. So that car would need even more. I ran the B.S.F.C. at a very low .55 and set the duty cycle at 100%! The results were that you'd need 602cc of fuel. I don't think those 560's can quite get there even with a big fuel pump and higher fuel pressure. So according to that calculator those numbers are impossible. According to you they're not, and I have no reason to not believe you, but it's borderline impressive results if you're providing accurate information for the set-up. I'd like to see some logs because I'm intrigued a little. |
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2 inch exhaust?! :S 467 on pump gas :S
good work Chris on the tune, all these high HP d series makes me wanna trailer my car to New Jersey to get it re-tuned |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by crx2211
417whp on a 16G and some 560cc injectors?! If that's true; it's very good numbers for the set-up. I know the twin scroll 16g's are making over 500whp occasionally, so I suppose it's not completely unfathomable. What gets me is that it's on 560cc injectors. Last I checked you needed more than that for those hp levels, especially on pump gas without even meth injection. I used this calculator, so it's a very rough estimate, but still.
http://www.witchhunter.com/injectorcalc1.php4 So I entered your information into the calculator as 417hp at the flywheel. So that car would need even more. I ran the B.S.F.C. at a very low .55 and set the duty cycle at 100%! The results were that you'd need 602cc of fuel. I don't think those 560's can quite get there even with a big fuel pump and higher fuel pressure. So according to that calculator those numbers are impossible. According to you they're not, and I have no reason to not believe you, but it's borderline impressive results if you're providing accurate information for the set-up. I'd like to see some logs because I'm intrigued a little. |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
i can vouche for this setup....believe it or not 467whp :y......
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Car should trap low/mid 130's. Damn cast pistons rule
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holy hell, i need to get my ---- together.
nice numbers, but yeah, 560s?????? if thats the case im gonna have to pickup a set. |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
---- man :o
I need to get my ---- together |
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whats up with the spikes at 5.5k rpms?
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Do you recall how much what psi it took to get it there with that turbo?
Damn gets me all excited about my motor build! :y |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Steve told me around 23 psi.
Thats a bad ass setup. I dont even know how it can make that much power w/ a 2 inch exhaust. |
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do you think if that was a 3" exhaust you have hit 500whp ? or run it directly off the downpipe.
great numbers. |
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why only 2" exhuast?
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
---- sick numbers. With that setup it makes me want to go dig up the y7 motor I have lying around and stuff it in a civic.
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by hondacivc93
why only 2" exhuast?
Yes it was on 23 psi. |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Wow :o Nice work guys that is awesome numbers :y
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what was done with the block was it sleeved or filled or anything like that?
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by 92CXyD
what was done with the block was it sleeved or filled or anything like that?
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>:D SOHC FTW
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holy ----. I want a vitara build. :(
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Stock sleeves, as long as you have a good tuner; there are no worries.
[/quote] Sweet I already have the pistons now I need some good rods. Then I'll do a similar build but with a s/c as part of the mix. |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Steve whats the sohc pump gas record ?
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by D16Y8-Z6
Steve whats the sohc pump gas record ?
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
been told it was 425 on pump gas, and it resides here in havelock, nc. :l
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Man, so many setup is reaching over 400 hp like crazy. I really need to set my A game up for sure :6
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
thats insane.
especially for, 550 injectors and a 16g at 23psi. amazing!! and that power level on pump is pretty high as well. what kind of torque are you laying down on both boost levels? |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by drunkinmaster1
thats insane.
especially for, 550 injectors and a 16g at 23psi. amazing!! and that power level on pump is pretty high as well. what kind of torque are you laying down on both boost levels? |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
You can see the dyno was set to display flywheel power for both hp and tq, it says so right on the side of the dyno graph, so if you figure in typical loss that makes it 390ish at the wheels, still pretty darn good for pump gas. and i bet some of you thought that was at the wheels :)
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im still amazed that a 16g can get to those power levels on a single-cam.
and 550 injectors |
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both times i tried a big 16g and a bastard 20g which is a 16g with a 20 g wheel I hit a wall right at 300ish whp, both turbos didnt want to go past no matter what. perhaps the version he used is much much better, i would have to see a compressor map from one to tell for sure if its that much better. granted i could pull another 30 or 40 from my bastard 20 g with a cam , head work and a bigger exhaust but no way i could get close to 390 at the wheels like this guys did. what i really would love to see is some trap speeds and a report in a few thousand miles that its still together and has no problems, then i will be impressed, as for the trap speeds they should be close to 130 mph, have him run it and post up his slip for us to admire.
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I am researching the evo twin scroll and there are a bunch , from the evo 4 to the evo 8 they used twin scroll design, so far from what i have found even the better version chokes around 23 - 24 psi and flows at most around 600 cfm, well i wont go into the math as i am sure most of you know this but 600 cfm is only around 42 ib/min which as we all know is roughly enough air for 420 hp so while you guys are all scratching your heads over the 550 injectors making it that far, im wondering how in the heck a turbo of that size made it that far. again i still have not found exactly what turbo he used because the OP just said evo twin scroll and there are several, but either way i wonder if the total timing is pretty aggressive on this tune. i think like we stated above some trap speeds and a report that its still together after 1000 miles of hard use will attest to the turbo and injectors abilitys.
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
I think it came off a 05 evo, so that is like evo9 if I remember right. The setup might before sale in the next month or so, the owner of the car wants a bigger turbo >:D.
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
guys, guys...
the answer to all your questions is this: I am the one who made a new driver's side intercooler pipe for this car last week. Case closed. |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
time for a bigger frame turbo
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by ghettoturbo
guys, guys...
the answer to all your questions is this: I am the one who made a new driver's side intercooler pipe for this car last week. Case closed.
Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
time for a bigger frame turbo
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Yea my brother met him. He didnt seem too friendly from what I understand.
But his setup is sweet. In for trap speeds. |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
---- that last dyno graph looks like some drunk with nerve damage in his hand drew it in microsoft paint while the washer was on spin cycle.
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Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by D16Y8-Z6
Yea my brother met him. He didnt seem too friendly from what I understand.
But his setup is sweet. In for trap speeds. |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
Originally Posted by crxvtec91
And it looks damn good.
The owner of the car is thinking about something like a Gt30r or sc61, and a new mani from Eville140 >:D Very nice numbers for the vtara setups.. Im glad more people are posting their hi HP results.. So far the official record for highest HP on vitaras is 471whp from speed factory..but as told by them the car did make more power (around 485) but they could not retrieve the dyno plot.. WoOOOoooOOT |
Re: My boy wil's vitara setup, almost new record w/pics
inspirational :y
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