Making a manifold.
 

ok guys i have gotten a few emails on where to locate and make up your own manifold. ill try to explain some steps and where to locate the parts.

now with 90 elbows and Tee's u can create any kind of manifold u want as you guys have seen beau do with the stainless steel manifold hes making right now.

ok www.mcmaster.com has eveything u could possibly think of but i think there prices are outrageous. (5.59 for 1 1/2" elbow is crap, i can get em for 2.50$ cdn.) but if you choose to buy off mcmaster here is what u have to search

"Unthreaded Steel Butt-Weld Pipe Fitting"
"Butt-Weld (Aluminum) Pipe Fittings" (duno why u want alum)
"Butt-Weld (Stainless Steel) Pipe Fittings"

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heres some pics of the weldable joints. as u can see you could design anything imaginable.

http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images...150x100grp.gif
http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images...14_150x100.gif

finding someone with a welder is another thing ;)

but i mean if your gonna pay 1200$ for a full raice manifold, u could buy a tigmate for 1199$ learn to tig weld and make the manifold for another 100$ and u have a TIG welder now..

hope that helps some people out there.

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Pipe fittings are cheaper but the metal is more brittle than tubular stainless - thicker 14 or 16 g tubular is a little easier to work with and should be more durable - the material I use in my manifolds is 304L tubular 14 g. I'm not even going to tell you what these tee's sell for :o.

anyway I sell these for $350.00 uncoated and $425 with bright ceramic coating.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...1/fccc1076.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...4/fcefdd5a.jpg

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nice manifold.. :)

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the first one was made for a 2g Eclipse - the second for a SOHC neon - same concept though. I like how the second picture looks like somone squatting - we call it the "ass"

Ted

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Flange looks warped on the second one.. :ois it the camera?

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how do you cut the holes for the wg and collector/flange?

I am considering buying a welder to try and make my manifold, but I couldnt possibly afford a plasma cutter as well..

also, I am not verry familiar with welding... how many amp welder should I look for to weld the "butt-weld" pipes and what type of welder do you need for stainless?

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I used a bi metal holesaw in a drill press with alot of oil. My flanges are 3/8" and drilling took less that 30 minutes.. Most exhaust ports arent rounf tho.. a die grinder is used to create a transition from oval to round. This is common practice as your tubes will be round anyway... ;D

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well u have a few choices. now cutting 1/2 steel with a plasma is pricy for the unit that will do it. instead have a machine shop or someone u know do the flanges with a mill.

if you havent ever welded before u might want to consider a small night course or something on the basics that will help you alot.

u could either go TIG or MIG.
the Miller M200 or Air Liquide M200 are great units and can be used for anything. i think your looking at about 1200$ for those units. 200 amp.

for a tig, it seems beau's little tigmate is doing a great job, the hobart tigmate is 1199$ i believe.

and for a plasma cutter. heres a list u can compare prices and what its capable of doing. http://www.plasmacam.com/plcut.htm
so your looking at about 2300$ for a plasma cutter that will cut 1/2 pretty fast.

hope that helps ya out.

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I just bought a little Lincoln Electric "Handy MIG" from Lowes for about $260... works just fine if you're working with Mild Steel.

-Henry

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i got a little electric. once i used a welder with co2/argon.. omg eletric is so ass compared.

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Do you make any of these manifolds that allow for an external waist gate?

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so you need 200 amps to weld those butt-weld pipes together?

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my friends got a lincoln electric MIG welder and it welds ---- loads of stuff. Id get one of those and they are prety reasonale.

i think it is up to a 1/2"

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yeah u just cut a hole with a torch and port it out then weld a pipe on to your wastegate. mine will be like that. when i get the dam thing done!

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So where can you get these fittings? are they threaded inside thats all i found? do you port the threaded part out or is this the wrong thing totally.

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tory i can get them for you and ship them up if you want.

now get on MSN!

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Shortyz... you mention 2.50$ canadian for a elbow... now, are you located in canada T.o or Montreal... caus I am in montreal, and I would really really really like to know where to get those parts... enven if it's not in montreal...

Thanks

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i bought them a few weeks ago i think they were 2.50-5.00$ even still they are 5$ on mcmaster USD.

i know it came to like 45$ cdn for the 2 90 degree elbows and 2 Tee's (the tee's are like 12.50 each!!)

if anyone wants me to pick them up some i can do that and ship them to you...

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Shortyz... i don't understand... You willing to sell them to me for 45$ canadian... I mean, you want to buy from mcmaster and sell them to me with profits or what... I was just asking where to get them here in canada... maybe I just don't understand what you try to say (sorry.. english is not very familiar with me here in Montreal.. I'm a french guy :) )

Thanks

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whoops. im in vancouver forgot to tell you that.

goto any plumbing wholesale type store.. they might have them.

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yes, for some reason it always looks like this in a wide angle -

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yep, I happen to have a plasma cutter. but I have done it with a hole saw too - it makes a nicer circle(hole saw)

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The stainless was tig welded with 309 rod. you start at the lowest setting and work your way up. the stainless to the mild steel flange was done with a mig welder the same way. you want a mig welder with gas. for these high heat applications you should have a good quality welder. Just an opinion. we all started learning somewhere.

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yes no problem

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Hey ShortyZ !! Exactly where do you get the Weld-El's?????

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murphy wakefield in abbotsford..
why u live here?

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No, I was just wondering if there were any kind of mailorder place to get them besides mcmaster.... I live in Wisconsin...

Thanks for the info!!!

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Well, on mine, it has a barb on the back of it for Gas hookup, comes with the regulator, and all the stuff you need besodes a bottle...

-Henry

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hey henry do your self a faivor go get a botle and some solid wire you will be much happier.

Beau

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Yeah, no kidding, I need to do that...Where do you get your gas? one of those exchange places? or did you just buy your own bottle and get it filled?

and I've already got the solid MIG wire... and the hoses and regulator... I need to get into that soon.

-Henry

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if you are a bit shady you can go and erm, liberate co2 bottles from bars.. and buy the adaptor from any welding place.. not as good as an argon mix, but better than no gas

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the welding supplies around here gave someone I know a hard time about having one of those bottles, all but called him a thief (he said he bought it at a pawn shop) and refused to fill it...

those bottle should hold argon just fine, but you can buy a 40 cu ft bottle for $100 filled and it is only $20 to fill after that.. not hardly worth the hassle of stealing one...

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alot of times when u buy a welder off miller or air liquide u can work a deal to rent the bottle for how ever u want.. cause they are quite pricy.

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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=5312

$69.99 for a 20 ft2 bottle...

should I get 100% argon or 60/40 or whatever the mix is...


-Henry

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read what your welder sez first, if it doesnt say anything u can go with either. ive welded with a pure argon mix and it was fine..

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that is not a great price and a 20 ft^3 bottle only lasts about 1 hour.. most people use a 40...

where I live the bigger the bottle the cheaper your fill is per ft^3, so that may also be a consideration..

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most of the lincoln electric gasless welders can be adapted.. with a kit they also sell. thats how mine is.. works great.

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how do u make/get the pice that connects to the exhaust ports??? Do you cut them yourself to the right sizes?? Isn't that pretty hard?

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if i was going to order some of these pipe pieces to make my own mani. what size should i got with and should i get stainless or just metal?