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Old 07-14-2007, 01:20 AM
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Keeping the compressor and turbine wheels 30 mils away from the housings would be very difficult with mag lev. You would just have to hit a bump with your car and "screeeeeeeech".
That all depends on the strength of the magnetic field and the weight of the turbine. Ceramic turbines are lighter. But I agree that the technology probably isn't quite where it needs to be yet. But it is ian interesting idea.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:21 AM
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there's more load than you think on that wheel. probably heat far more than you would think it would also.
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Old 07-14-2007, 03:47 AM
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Roller element bearings are almost friction free already, plus they are cheap as hell.

Also, magnetic bearings would require a super fine control of the gap between the shaft and the housing. Metal expands and contracts way too much with the heat ------ of like 1000 degrees that the senter section sees. The size of the hole would keep changing each time you heat the turbo up with a little boost.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't magnetic bearings require a lot of electricity to energize? That could be another issue.

Good thinking, though. I like mag bearings.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:56 PM
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oil isnt only used for a lubricant, it cools down the turbo too remeber that,
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: mag/lev turbo bearings, why hasn't it been done

Originally Posted by spekter
Roller element bearings are almost friction free already, plus they are cheap as hell.

Also, magnetic bearings would require a super fine control of the gap between the shaft and the housing. Metal expands and contracts way too much with the heat ------ of like 1000 degrees that the senter section sees. The size of the hole would keep changing each time you heat the turbo up with a little boost.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't magnetic bearings require a lot of electricity to energize? That could be another issue.

Good thinking, though. I like mag bearings.
there's still friction even if there's air in between. no such thing as "friction free" on earth.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:16 AM
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Hence the use of the word "almost". A good roller element bearing will transmit almost no torque when propperly lubricated. They don't suck until some jack *** cokes the oil or gets a bunch of ---- in the oil and chews up the elements.
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Old 07-16-2007, 06:58 AM
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because if Turbonetics can charge $1400 for a ball bearing, imagine what they'd charge for this ----, lol.
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because if Turbonetics can charge $1400 for a ball bearing, imagine what they'd charge for this ----, lol.
lol
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:53 AM
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theres a certain point which magnets will loose their magnetisom, right beside the turbine housing on a turbo isnt probably such a good place
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