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HiProfile 02-16-2007 10:18 AM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 

Originally Posted by RENR
can you see the difference?
http://www.westcoast-turbo.com/t3_sale/t3b-1.jpg

definately more than .07 of an inch

If you ask me, that looks like a 57 trim t04e wheel in that one (or similar, like the blaast turbo above). Compair that to this 57 trim/t3 combo:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GIANT...QQcmdZViewItem

I got 2 of the chrysler housing versions of the same deal for ~$105 each. My guess is that picture they're using is just a mix-up. If you ask them to supply a picture of their super60 (and prove its a at-the-moment picture), it will look almost exactly like the regular 60.


BTW blaast, is the machining usually done with a custom-profile endmill bit? I know they cut small runs of wheels with a cnc, usually a vertical mill with a rotary table. I would doubt they'd put the housing on a mill, as the jig wouldn't be fun.


dcg9381 02-16-2007 03:21 PM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 

Originally Posted by BLAAST
What's the point of spending huge amounts on a turbonetics super 60 while it performs basically the same as the 60 trim?
dcg9381 is right: it's possible to over bore a 60 trim into a super 60, provided you can find that rare wheel, but why just a super 60 while more efficient and cheaper wheels are available??? Here, I fitted a t04B 63 trim wheel in the t3 60 housing. It will outflow any super 60.

If the "super 60" comes with a 360 thrust, there's some benefit there. There's a minor flow difference.

What's the machine work cost to modify the housing?


The thing that irks me is all the people selling t3-60s as "super 60", knowing that they should get more money for an upgraded thrust and more expensive compressor... This guy sent me the inducer measurements and knows damn well that it's not a super-60:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GARRE...spagenameZWDVW


HiProfile 02-17-2007 09:15 AM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 
Well if he sends you the wrong measurements, let him know that you *will* enforce the paypal $2000 protection scheme. But $85 for shipping... ---- that, not worth it at all.

BLAAST 02-17-2007 09:51 AM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 
Such custom fitted turbo is always gonna be more expensive because of the labor involved. i do a lot of this because for some reason, people find a SUPER 60 sexy but what's the point really? I mean, Going full t3/t4 is much simpler! From my point of view, slapping the proper sized t04B backplate and housing on that t4 wheel is cheaper and performs basically the same.

oh, for those who think turbonetics turbos systematically come with a 360° thrust, well, not really. i saw plenty with the regular thrust plate and when i saw some 360° thrust, it was rarely bolted down as it has to be in order for you to get the said benefits.

craze8 02-17-2007 09:23 PM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 
If you want a super 60 you could always go through Mopar, it would be a dodge flange. Got a couple of buddies with Omni's and daytonas with the Super 60 upgrade. An they are garret turbos.

miro_gt 02-17-2007 11:40 PM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 
get the 60 trim from Garrett ... those are proven to work very well, and the flow is about the same as with the super 60 one. Not to mention cheaper too.

dcg9381 02-18-2007 09:52 AM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 

Originally Posted by miro_gt
get the 60 trim from Garrett ... those are proven to work very well, and the flow is about the same as with the super 60 one. Not to mention cheaper too.

Someone want to make me a deal on one? LEt me know..

BLAAST 02-19-2007 10:01 AM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 
these days, my current inventory allows me to offer the stage 1 t3 60trim .48/.60 for 399$ to HMT members.
6 month warranty on it.
You can choose two different compressor housings:
  • The ford type with flanges
  • the nissan Z31 type with 2.5" and 2" spouts.
you can have it upgraded with a T4 wheel as shown above, with the stage 1½ turbine, watercooling, 360° thrust, .63 turbine....possiblities are endless on t3 turbos!
You may be able to get a cheaper one in used condition on ebay, or "rebuilt" with chinese parts as the biggest ebay turbo shops do.

miro_gt 02-19-2007 11:12 PM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 
^ do not say "only" in front of any price that you advertise .. You should know how stupid this sounds

BLAAST 02-20-2007 07:09 AM

Re: ID: t3-60 vs T3 "super 60" questions
 
no actually I don'T know how stupid I am. I need people like you to tell me! O0


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