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I have this turbo kit that I got from Ebay. I lost interest in it and I stashed it out in the garage. So, I've lost the information and I would like to see if someone can ID this sucker to see what I got.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...c2242/8c_3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...42/turboin.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2/MVC-008S.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...c2242/8c_3.jpg

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Numbers, well in the Compresser it has .42 but the turbine I don't see and numbers. It says Airesearch, numbers are FA 1 M3 .36 063. That what I can make of it.

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Helllooo, is thier anyone out their? Is it a good turbo? It was supost to be a .42/.48 but I don't see and number ID that specifies this. Only the Compresser has a .42 inside he opening. The turbine is what worriy me. ::)

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Yeah looks like a most likely a 48 turbine housing. It was probably off of a Volvo, I think they used those types of internal wastegates, correct me if I'm wrong.

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yeah thats a .42/.48, can be found off old diesel Mercades Benz

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it'S a old turbo from a mercedes. a very clean one!
The .36 a/r turbine and 45 trim compressor wheel make it too small for any decent power but it will match a T25.
one thing that is usually valuable on this turbo is the staqe 1½ turbine shaft but as the picture shows, it has been taken off and replaced by some smaller wheel !! picture shows a 1/8" gap all around the turbine wheel. that's not gonna help the efficiency of the turbo.

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notice the WG.. it doesnt function. its the same WG and has the same flange I have on my turbo.
the same .42 is printed in the compressor housing.
and nothting is printed on the turbine housing.

I've asked the same question: Id myturbo?..
I got lots of replies. some said 42/48, a few 42/42 others said 36/42
I think that its also a 36/42.

it was comming from a WV golf GTD1.6 (in usa called a VW Rabbit i guess) and a Audi Quadro 1.6TD

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First of all, thanks guys. I'm planing to use it on a 1997 Toyota RAV4 with the 3SFE. Street use, lets say, to and from campus. Is the WG non-funcionable? No problem, I already have a HKS BOV. Right now I'm writng this from campus. Once I get home tonight I'll post many pictures of what I got and what stage I'm in. Thanbks also to the sponsers of this forum. They are answering. They want to know what I want. Which is a Perfect Power SMT6. I'll post pictures of my RAV4. Clean, neat, and almost stock. ;D

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Thanks for your constructive criticism. What can I do to upgrade or fix this little instrument of power?

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Can this WG be eliminated? I have a HKS BOV. Will this BOV substitute the WG?

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absolutely not.... you need to research a lot into turbocharging...

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Where can I measure the turbo to finally know how much is the Turbine and compressor. A micrometer?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...icrometers.jpg

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OK, guys, let me tell you who I am and where I’m from, and above all, what the hell am I trying to do. I’m a school teacher working on my MA in the Caribbean University. Of course, I’m continuing my PhD on Educational Technology. I live on the sunny island of Puerto Rico. I’m 49 years old, and I’m a veteran of the invasion of Panama. (All the Way). My wife is from Pasadena CA. She is from Zacatecas Mexico. I worked in the famous school of Pacoima Middle School. This is the school where Ritchie Balans “Para Bailer la Bamba” remember. I work as a school teacher during the day (High School) and in the evening I go to and from campus. I’ve raced in Rallies and Solo 1. I love road racing. So, hay, I’m not a guru in cars, before I went to the service I had a RX3SP. So, there toy have it guys.:1

Sorry turbohf If I seem stupid. Breathing is easy, but a stranger has to slap you in the but when you're born in order for you to breath, and live. Peace man. ;)

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kill yourself or go read alot of FAQ ...

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WTF IS A WASTE GATE? you dont need that ----. full spool more ppppppoooowwwwaaaaaa :l

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HEY blaast just wondering why we were on the subject i have the same turbo and it has the original wheel. how much of a spool diffrence compared to a stage 1

on another note: Thats sweet i can tell the ricer fags around town i have a stage 1 1/2 turbo.
because that seems to be a popular ricer Q?

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Hmmmm, more constructive criticism. ::)

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Well Dude, if the Batos from Panama didn't, or couldn't kill me when the invasion. I doubt that a simple question or lack of knowledge will. Thanks anyway, I'll take your advice and look over FAQ.

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Yes most of these T3 flanged turbos with the funny wastegate are stage 1½.
do not mistake with the audi and VW diesel that had a different, trapezoid shaped flange. Those have standard t3 wheels.
Sure, the stage 1½ spools up faster. it has more low end response and the improvement is major. You'll definitely feel it!
of course for making any decent power you need to use it with a larger compressor side such as t3 60 or most any T04B or T04E.

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Sweet i have 2 of them siting next to me. i had one of them rebuilt but it still has the original turbine fan and compressor fan. the other is still good. Im using the rebuilt one on my d16a6 and that very good news that i picked them up cheep.
Thanks blaast for always answering all of my random and probably stupid questions.

OOOO and sorry for thread jacking. :8

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No you need either an external or an internal wastegate. The internal wastegate is whats already on your turbo, but someone says is not working or disabled. So either buy a new internal or go with an aftermarket external wastegate. Both do the same job, but i have heard good and bad things about both, such as boost creep or complete failure in some instances (mostly internal, never really hear too much bad about the external wg other than the obvious "My cheap wg messed up again" threads). Its up to you though, it is required though. A bov only releases the air from your cold side imbetween the turbo and throttle body so that when the throttle plate closes it doesn't force your turbine wheel to stop suddenly and spin backwards. Thats a good thing. Its in no way a replacement for a wastegate, two totally separate things. Im not even close to an expert, just a lurker, but im pretty sure i haven't lied to you.

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lies all lies wastegate are unnecessary....













but the do help limit boost :P

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These wastegates are actually very good.
They are internal, but they are piston type wastegates just like the external ones. I would use it.

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you know blaast, you are making me happier and happier in every post.

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OK, I'll post the parts that I have. You guys duke it out. It's going to go in this RAV4. The engine is a 3SFE, 5 speed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2/untitled.bmp


This is what I got among other stuff. Injectors are from a N/A Supra
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...242/TheKit.jpg

It's HKS
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This is a TOGA High Performance Oil Pump
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The Intercooler is new
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...eopeningIC.jpg

Oil pan is from a 3SGTE engine (new)
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This is from a 3SGTE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/almc2242/MAP.jpg

The reason why I posted this is I'm looking for the Perfect Power SMT6. Still waiting for answers from the sponsors of this forum.

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Looks like you have a nice little bundle of parts there. Good luck with the project.

and sdrawkcab/dirtydseries, could you please stfu. Flaming is funny sometimes but both of yours were pretty stupid.

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It's ACH KAY ESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Yes, we know that you have an HKS bov rofl. You seem to be very proud of it after mentioning it in damn near every reply. My advice to you is that you did a decent job gathering parts, but turboing a car, especially the one you want to, isn't like building Legos or Tinker Toys. If you attempt to do a turbo kit right now the chances are extremely high that you will cause lots of damage to your car and/or you won't ever get it finished.

You're a teacher, so you can't be completely stupid, but you're going to have to learn and research a TON before you're able to install/tune a turbo kit. Being a noob is totally fine, everyone has to start somewhere, but please heed my advice. Take the time to learn and you will be rewarded. If you get hasty because you have shiney parts you want to install it's a given that you will fail, or have to pay lots of $ to have someone else un----- your mess. Just my $.02. Good luck whatever happens.

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just to make sure you read that. If you were confused by BOV/Wastegate, I say you read another month before clicking buy again. Good start though. You are now tied for oldest member of this site I believe... hatrack cant permanently be 48.

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Thanks 2G6 for your words. i am doing a lot of research. I also bought some books on Amazon regarding Turbo ( Torbochargers by Hugh Macinnes [this one is old, but has the basics] and also Maximum Boost by Corky Bell). As you said, it's a lot more then shinny parts :y. I've put everything on hold. I'm first checking the best parts that will work with my engine. (Toyota 3SFE 2.0) Which A/R, MAP, Trim. The purchase on Ebay was a dud. Oh well, back to the old drawing board. I'll keep posting here as I keep prograssing. Once again 2G6, thanks.

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Well, lets say I'm the oldest rookie and hatrack, is a wise individual. 8) But I guess all of use once in a while want to relive our pass. As they say in my country: "Recordar es vivir" "Remembering, is living" :) Know that I'm working, have a family, having a good year ;) I just want to do some thing that I once couldn't for one reason or another. Peace

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BTW, that picture you see is when I was 33 at Pacoima Middle school in Pacoima. That is in San Fernando Valley in LA. I lived in Van Nuys, the most beautiful place in the world.

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http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html :S

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OK, doing the math and visiting a few web site, thanks to some individuals from this forum that pointed me in the correct direccion. I came across some numbers that really don't resemble what I got regarding parts. Well, here goes

With a VE of 81.66 and a CI of 132.26, B/S 86.0/86.0 the program gave me the following turbo which will work with my engine.

Garrett Model T25
Comp .55
Turbine HSG A/R 0.49

Remember, I don't want a screamer. I just want some swift moving RAV4 that will take me to and from campus quickly.

Impressions :y, opinions :y (and in some cases of some individuals on this forum, their stupidity :1)

What really is important is the majority of the members of this forum their mature adults opinion, like men. :y

BTW emoretared, love your above picture :y

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that mercedes turbo will outperform the t25. if it really has that .36 a/r turbine, it will spool super quick. Don'T worry.

cars equipped with t25 turbos from the factory were making barely more power than a stock atmospheric rav4. if you use that turbo, not only it won't fit your t3 manif, but it will also lack top end, overheat a lot and fail quickly.

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its the same as a saab 42/48, it is a ta03 if you want to get technical. 7psi stock wg and 4-bolt outlets ftw


its off of a mercedes 300d. i sold one to lsturboracer and took 3 months to get it shipped, i know what the turbo is..

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Which is the MAP of the turbo that I have? BTW, yes, it's a36 turbine and a 42 compresser. Well, at least that is what the numbers say that are stamped on the metal of each housing.

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Correct, it's a 36/42. That what is stamped on the housing.

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there you go. 160 HP Max at around 8 psi and up to 200 hp at unrealisitic high boost levels.
And that's just the compressor side.
Who knows where the 0.36 a/r will start acting as a plug on your system? The hole for the exhaust is soooo small. Just look which car it comes from... what hp did it make? Why would this turbine be able to support more power than it's intended application? we all know factory turbos are on the small side. They're maxed out from the factory...

http://64.225.76.178/catalog/compmaps/Fig2.gif

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The turbo is too small. Don't use it. At a minimum go with a .42/.48 that can be had cheaply... or look for something even slightly bigger then that. You'll be able to run ~10psi and make your 250whp with a bigger t3, mayhap a 60/63 or something of the sort and have acceptable spooltime.

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Look like we have two different opinions. BLAAST says go :y, and ichbinsobose says, no go :3. It's like the eternal question; Who came first, the chicken or the egg! :S

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i did not give my opinion. i laid down facts.
if that 160 hp at 8 psi is ok for you, go ahead. if not, go bigger.