How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
08-18-2006, 04:05 PM
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Re: How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
not aware of any gt30X factory cars and for the GT-"R" cars, in the last few months, mazda was the first to ever use a gt bb on a factory car. All the other GT2X factory cars are using non BB turbos like the saab GT17.
nissan was using ball bearings on the skyline way back but that model of garrett BB is not GT technology and they have to be replaced by the GT ones when they fail.
nissan was using ball bearings on the skyline way back but that model of garrett BB is not GT technology and they have to be replaced by the GT ones when they fail.
08-19-2006, 12:25 AM
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Re: How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
Originally Posted by ezspoolin
get 2 16g's, 550's , a front mount................and GUT EVERYTHING
call it good
check out 3si.org
call it good
check out 3si.org
Originally Posted by BLAAST
single turbo: since you probably have a HMT budget, you could get a remanufactured Full T4 twin scroll 60-1 from some turbo shop for less than half the price of a gt35R or gt4088R and results that are almost just as good.
Using the twin scroll feature will compensate for the lack of ball bearings!
Use either one big 46+mm wastegate or two 35/38 mm WG !!!
twin turbo: Again, you could grab a pair of .48/.60 t3 60 trim or even t3t04e 46 trim for cheap and that's good for almost 600 HP. 0.63 turbines would work with better top end and more HP but i'm affraid it could lag.
OF course you could go with a pair of gt2860R that are much more expensive but on a twin setup, you can save by using internal wastegates.
Using the twin scroll feature will compensate for the lack of ball bearings!
Use either one big 46+mm wastegate or two 35/38 mm WG !!!
twin turbo: Again, you could grab a pair of .48/.60 t3 60 trim or even t3t04e 46 trim for cheap and that's good for almost 600 HP. 0.63 turbines would work with better top end and more HP but i'm affraid it could lag.
OF course you could go with a pair of gt2860R that are much more expensive but on a twin setup, you can save by using internal wastegates.
So .... ~$500 for 1 big turbo but ~$400 for a 46mm TiAL ... don't turbo diesel trucks run large internally gated turbos? Could we use that to get around the huge TiAL exspense?
twin turbo:
somthin like 2 of these -> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RB20-...18790084QQrdZ1 for a total of $480 for the pair with gates
Originally Posted by noboostedEGo
It's not mopar dumbass, it's mitsubishi
3S's run DIS, here's an article if you're interested.
http://www.stealth316.com/0-frames.htm go to technical, and then dohc ignition system.
If you wanna stay cheaper, I'd recommend staying twin turbo, it's just more simple because the framework is already there for you. It sounds like for the goals you speak of, you'd be well suited with EvoIII 16g's. You'll definately need a front mount. If you wanna go cheap, you can just gut the precats and not have to buy O2 housing/precat eliminators (not sure if this will make 600 awhp though).
The only options people really use for engine management on a large scale is AEM EMS or ARC-2, look into it. ARC-2 isn't the BEST, but Matt Monett uses it, and he just hit 9's on a stock bottom end.
And if you actually want to do it as cheap as possible, open your mind up to using nitrous, because it'll be a lot easier. I've heard of somebody who I believe ran an 11.7 on the stock 9b's (------ tiny) with nitrous.
If you have any 3S specific questions, let me know, and I'll try to find out for you, I have a tt stealth (i'm selling), but I do a lot of research on them.
3S's run DIS, here's an article if you're interested.
http://www.stealth316.com/0-frames.htm go to technical, and then dohc ignition system.
If you wanna stay cheaper, I'd recommend staying twin turbo, it's just more simple because the framework is already there for you. It sounds like for the goals you speak of, you'd be well suited with EvoIII 16g's. You'll definately need a front mount. If you wanna go cheap, you can just gut the precats and not have to buy O2 housing/precat eliminators (not sure if this will make 600 awhp though).
The only options people really use for engine management on a large scale is AEM EMS or ARC-2, look into it. ARC-2 isn't the BEST, but Matt Monett uses it, and he just hit 9's on a stock bottom end.
And if you actually want to do it as cheap as possible, open your mind up to using nitrous, because it'll be a lot easier. I've heard of somebody who I believe ran an 11.7 on the stock 9b's (------ tiny) with nitrous.
If you have any 3S specific questions, let me know, and I'll try to find out for you, I have a tt stealth (i'm selling), but I do a lot of research on them.
Sorry...I am all about shutting the 02 off with UD :1Do you know what this ARC-2 runs price wise?
Any input on the most bang for the buck clutch?
I think we're gonna try and keep nitrous out of the plan for now but we'll explore that option if we can't get 11s after this build.
Appreciate the help
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Need to find what big trucks the larger GT series are finding their way onto.
so useable junk yard turbo(s) and injectors would be sweet ...
08-19-2006, 12:40 AM
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Re: How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
"Caterpillar TV7202 Turbocharger, fairly large turbo, was gonna use it on a gas motor, would work great for high RPM race motor, or large C.I motor .72 intake a/r 1.60 exhaust, came off running diesel. $75 "
^ on my local car forum
^ on my local car forum
08-19-2006, 04:04 AM
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Re: How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
Originally Posted by JFoster
So we're thinking it couldn't be that hard, Supra guys do it all the time.
08-19-2006, 04:10 AM
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Re: How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
Originally Posted by JDMFantasy2K
1. steal lamborghini murcilago, diablo vt, etc
2. transplant stealth body, onto lamborghi chasis
3. drive like homo
2. transplant stealth body, onto lamborghi chasis
3. drive like homo
08-19-2006, 10:45 PM
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Re: How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
Originally Posted by JFoster
somthin like 2 of these -> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RB20-...18790084QQrdZ1 for a total of $480 for the pair with gates
You dont plan on installing such chinese knock offs on that car do you
08-20-2006, 01:55 AM
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Re: How Can I Get 600AWHP From a Stealth ????
Originally Posted by BLAAST
HEY these are chinese knock off turbos!!! i can tell right away from the plastic cover on the t3 flange, the shapes of the housings that are definitely not garrett's as well as the unreal pricing!
You dont plan on installing such chinese knock offs on that car do you
You dont plan on installing such chinese knock offs on that car do you
Originally Posted by BuckChoklit
Thats because the Supra's bottom end can handle almost 1000 HP stock and theres so much more aftermarket for it. And as for a big and nice turbo, research Holset.
So Matt (the owner) was reading me a budget build he found online earlier ... I'll post up the link when he emails it to me... but supposedly this guy did a build consisting mainly of:
Aeromotive fuel pump
Aeromotive FPR
custom lines
5XX cc injectors from a ford explorer (also listed other peak and hold injectors that could be used)
an internally gated turbo off a 7.3L Ford turbo diesel
big FMIC (no specifics)
stock BOVs
Self ported heads with lash adjuster shims and valve springs from some other vehicle (not concerned as we don't plan to ---- with the heads)
and AEM fuel management
made 7xx awhp
then switched to a $2600 Garrett turbo and did somthin like 850 ...
Been reading about megasquirt some and it looks like it'll work.
