equal length mani
#11
Re: equal length mani
people its not that hard to understand. equal length = longer runners which will have a slightly slower spool time. is it that much of a differnce. not really. is it worth all the money. definately not. id take a log mani and save all that other money for other turbo goodies.
#12
Re: equal length mani
Originally Posted by hotrex
dont roll your eyes at me noob, you want proof??
#13
Re: equal length mani
Originally Posted by raprazant
people its not that hard to understand. equal length = longer runners which will have a slightly slower spool time. is it that much of a differnce. not really. is it worth all the money. definately not. id take a log mani and save all that other money for other turbo goodies.
#16
Re: equal length mani
i haven't seen a ram horn style manifold yet that is a "true equal length" manifold. sure the 1 and 4 runners are the same length and the 2 and 3 runners are the same length, but all 4 are not the same length in all the ramhorns i've seen. the 2 and 3 runners always tend to be a bit longer. the advantage of a ramhorn over something like a log manifold is the way the collector merges all the runners together into a funnel directing the exhaust into the turbo. but having all 4 runners the same length i would think would be most optimal. i am trying to design a manifold that will have all 4 runners the same length but it isn't easy. first i'm going to build a short runner manifold based on the design of the manifold that is on the top fuel civic.
#17
Re: equal length mani
Originally Posted by weirRacing
i haven't seen a ram horn style manifold yet that is a "true equal length" manifold. sure the 1 and 4 runners are the same length and the 2 and 3 runners are the same length, but all 4 are not the same length in all the ramhorns i've seen. the 2 and 3 runners always tend to be a bit longer. the advantage of a ramhorn over something like a log manifold is the way the collector merges all the runners together into a funnel directing the exhaust into the turbo. but having all 4 runners the same length i would think would be most optimal. i am trying to design a manifold that will have all 4 runners the same length but it isn't easy. first i'm going to build a short runner manifold based on the design of the manifold that is on the top fuel civic.
#20
Re: equal length mani
Equal length is marginally more efficient because of it equalizing backpressure between each cylinder. Tubular manifolds in general will flow better. This creates less reversion and allows your turbo to maintain boost at high rpm's where boost might start dropping off with a log mani. The downside is that the larger(I'm generalizing about the tons off different configurations) physical volume and surface area of a tubular mani will cause more lag.
Manifolds are (like anything else) a compromise between cost/effort and performance. Is it worth the extra time/money to build/buy that fancy tubular manifold?
IMO build a tubular with a 4-1 collector that keeps the runners as short as possible.
If you had a twin-entry CT26 you could pair cylinders 1-3 and 2-4 so they fired into seperate inlets.
The ultimate setup for high boost would be JR supercharger and a large turbo. The extra exhaust volume from the supercharger would help spool the turbo very quickly. You would need a serious motor to take advantage of this though.
Manifolds are (like anything else) a compromise between cost/effort and performance. Is it worth the extra time/money to build/buy that fancy tubular manifold?
IMO build a tubular with a 4-1 collector that keeps the runners as short as possible.
If you had a twin-entry CT26 you could pair cylinders 1-3 and 2-4 so they fired into seperate inlets.
The ultimate setup for high boost would be JR supercharger and a large turbo. The extra exhaust volume from the supercharger would help spool the turbo very quickly. You would need a serious motor to take advantage of this though.