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Old 01-23-2009, 05:54 PM
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i have the lines and a pump off a supercharged ford truck and the heat exchanger off it too and the 3 gallon tank for the trunk. i was just wondering on the efficiency
Those parts are damn near worthless. The pumps are junk and the heat exchanger is laughable. Sell it to some ricers.

Air-to-water isnt worth it unless...
1. you absolutely have no room for a2a or isnt feasible (mr2, nsx, etc)
2. you want to use ice for drag racing.

Otherwise they kinda suck for a regularly driven street car. IMHO not worth it. Your still just moving heat from one medium to the other, and you cant acheive negatve ambient temps without ice.

BTW whoever said CO2, as I recall in middle school we learned that CO2 displaces oxygen, ie fire extinguishers. Oxygen makes more power, the lack of is as such. What makes you think that CO2 spraying on your IC wont make it to your intake and into your engine? Yeah maybe good just to freeze it, but your not gaining anything because you really only use the first 4 inches of the IC anyway, the rest just acts like a big heat sink. Good for back to back runs at the track, but how may people do that, and why bother with that when you can turn the boost controller another turn and make more power?
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:16 PM
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its just tough to get an air to air in there. with out cutting the ---- out of the bumper unless i get the vr4 bumper.. hmm idk. im just wanting to go for 350 hp or so. im just trying to come up with ideas since this bible isnt going to cut it in a while and it in the engine bay right now haha.

and yes co2 sprayers are not reccomended haha you lose power. its been proven. ( on a dyno though) and no2 can ---- with things too turbo placement depending..

and im jsut leaning to air to water, i know some alltracs use them .. i might pick up another pump sometime to push and pull more water.
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:23 PM
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If you want below ambeint temps. use CO2 or NO2 purge systems in front of intercoolers you can really get some low temps.
you do mean n20 right genius
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you do mean n20 right genius
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you do mean n20 right genius
I hope so, N02 is a brown, poisonous and corrosive gas.
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I hope so, N02 is a brown, poisonous and corrosive gas.
i huff that ---- and sleep with bdv's mother
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Originally Posted by jarebear667
i might pick up another pump sometime to push and pull more water.


dude, let me know, i am about to throw my ---- on craigslist. my stuff is brand new.

seriously, i only want like $35 for the pump i have (perfect for your setup), and only $60 for the sorrocco radiator

plus shipping, which would be like $10 for the pump and $20 for the radiator.


let me know.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:59 PM
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I got one of the Ebay coolers for $85 shipped. It looks really nice honestly.

Get a bosch pump out of a caddy, cobra, or cobalt SS or something, they are way worth it if you plan on using it for more than the track.

You dont have to have a fancy resivor setup, you can fairly easily just run a closed system... I have a shitty radiator from a old ford ---- box for my heat exchanger.
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Originally Posted by jarebear667
and im jsut leaning to air to water, i know some alltracs use them .. i might pick up another pump sometime to push and pull more water.
st165 and st205 use air to water, but the st165 is small and ineffective. The st205 ic is good for 500hp but hard to find. Mr2Guru's car is running an st205 ic, with a very large heat exchanger. Put down 413 with a dead ic pump and stock cams. Also local guy who works for Borg-Warner built a 3.4L 5VZ Mr2 turbo and had great success with an ebay A2W ic.

I have considered running an A2W ic setup on my 951, as space is a problem, but I kinda feel like keeping it simple will yield less headache in the future.

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I got one of the Ebay coolers for $85 shipped. It looks really nice honestly.

Get a bosch pump out of a caddy, cobra, or cobalt SS or something, they are way worth it if you plan on using it for more than the track.

You dont have to have a fancy resivor setup, you can fairly easily just run a closed system... I have a shitty radiator from a old ford ---- box for my heat exchanger.
I would shy away from the bosch pump, as it is notorious for leaking around the casing. I have 2 under my tool box. Bosch hasnt changed the overall design of the pump since 1986 with the 944 turbo. It sucked *** then and guess what? Although cheap, the flow rate is less than adequate, and there are better solutions at your local northern tool/harbor freight. Been there, done that every time a 944 turbo rolls in the shop.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:10 PM
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i will check it out on harbor freight. thanks for all the info, i want to use the small heat exchanger since its long and narrow it will fit nicely.
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