DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

alright well i just got myself a 1st gen dsm turbo set up yesterday, it has the TD05H turbo, now i was woundering if anyone has had any experiance with this turbo, i cant find anything on it all i can find is upgrades for that turbo. i have a 95 accord with the jdm F22b dohc ive been wanting to turbo it for along time and i just got this set up, i went to a shop that deals with civics and integras (mainly) and they said that the turbo is too small. let me know what you guys think if this set up will 1 work and 2 give me enough boost thanks

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dont know which exact turbo that is, but i doubt its the 16g.

if its the 14b, its still a bit small imo for the f22b dohc. people have ran that turbo setup without a problem and alright numbers.

if its the t25, forget about it.

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how can i find out wich it is?

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I'll narrow it down for you

the 14b and 16g share that same compressor.

now search.

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turbo is not to small it will work fine. it will get you to 210-225 hp but no more than that.

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it will also produce a ---- load of heat, especially if you have a crappy side mount.

will it work? yes. will it make your car faster? yes. will it make your engine wear out even faster than the usual, well taken care of turbo'd honda? yes.

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there was a guy on here who actually had his turbo accord in the turbo projects section before it got deleted. he also had a 14b on an f22 and you can see from his dyno chart that he made something like 225 hp right away, after that power dropped like a rock. it almost looked like the graph was flipped backwards
(opposite of typical honda power band).

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

yea, that was also a sohc.

this guy has a dohc, which is pretty much the same thing as an h23.

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well, im gonna find out what turbo i have, if i like it im gonna keep it and put it on, if not its going on ebay, or ill get a bigger/better turbo. why would the power just drop like that, i see no reason for that what-so-ever, he may have had a bad turbo or something wrong with the system. and no matter what motor you put a turbo on it will wear out faster, the more beating the motor gets the faster its gonna go, i take damn good care of my engine so i dont have to worry about that too much. and im getting a fmi so i dont have to worry about the heat as much either

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get bigger intercooler

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14b and 16g don't use the same compressor. They use the same turbine wheel, center section. DIfferent backing plate, compressor housing and turbine housing, the TH is interchangeable 16g being a 7cm^2, 14b being a 6cm^2. The 14b compressor wheel, all blades are the same height, 16g the blades are staggered like most garret turbos. The 14b compressor housing will have 49178- 01 in raised lettering. I can find the Big 16g numbers but its on the car right now.

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

cool, thanks for the correction.

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alright then i have a 14b i just rebuilt the turbo, its all nice and clean it spins nicley, the only problem is that c clip holding the turbine into the housing i cant get back in, so ill figure that out tomorrow, and start seeing how things will fit on to the car.

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Sounds like you are talking about the compressor cover / center section snap ring. That thing can be a bitch. It really helps to have an extra set of hands. Its nothing compared the the one on my HX40 (RIP) though that fugger is huge.

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

that is exactually what i mean. that snap ring, yeah im gonna get my buddys to help me out with it

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yea its a bitch just make sure all the little groves and ---- are spotless and it should snap right in to place.

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i got it back in, the turbine housing is painted midnight blue (just like my mustang) i still have to get all the parts for it, intercooler, chargepipes, downpipe ect... but im drilling the holes on the manifold to fit on the head, the ports match up but the bolts dont so i gotta redrill them, im just gonna take it to my school and use the drill press, but so far so good with it

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

go to cb7tuner.com they have turbo accords on lock down.

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

That turbo is too small. It's gonna be gay.

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yea totally dude 225 hp accords are gay man, if you aint hitting like 500hp your gay man man

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:'(

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turbo isnt to small

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

then what is the right size for my motor??

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i told you if your goal is 200-225 hp then that turbo is fine

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for now thats what im looking at, plus i got the whole set up for under $80 so you cant complain, i may change the turbo later after i do some motor work.

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that is the way i would do it

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ok is this at all possable? i was talking to some guys and they said that the turbo i have it small for my motor, ok, well they also said i need to put an 'oil restrictor' on the car?

"u need a restrictor for the oil in for the turbo, because even if u rebuild it hondas run at high oil pressures and you will blow past the seals and ruin the turbo"

is what i was told can anyone back this up or prove it wrong? thanks

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

yes it is true

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Yea high oil psi can kill a turbo in a short amount of time.J davis gave a really detailed description of what happens in a post a few weeks ago.

Stealthmode sells an adjustable one

http://---------------------------/oil-res.shtml


or heres another non adjustable option, 1/8th npt with a .060 opening

http://www.integrated-engineering.or...products_id=47

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

wrong and wrong the 14b has oil restrictors in the turbo oil inlet :y

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

:3 no it dont

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

I would double-check the exhaust flanges first, I thought it was only the F22aX (sohc non-vtec) that worked with the dsm mani. I knew all the info about a month ago, but all I know for sure atm is the dsm will fit a f22a1 with minor grinding.

And 15psi should be okay for a crapload of low-end torque and a good 200whp.

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yes it does that is why when you look in there you cant see the shaft you see a dead end with 3 pin wholes on the sides of the oil intake aka restrictors. trust me

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well i have the JDM F22b DOCH it doesnt line right up but im bringing the manifold to my shop tomorrow to drill the bolt holes to fit my head (jdm f22b=H23 head+F22 block) the ports match up perfect.

so should i get a restrictor or not? would it hurt to have one?

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

ok not going to argue with you about it you want to give the guy fucked up info then thats ur prog. not mine and its

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there wont be a problem your wrong just like you are about everything i ever heard you arguee about on here

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dizzamn... but seriously use an oil restrictor or not?

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I would use one...it will come in handy when you upgrade to a bigger turbo too

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look in the inlet and see if theres a smaller opening.Or just run one anyways,its under 20 bucks offline and less at hardware stores and if you ever upgrade then you allready have it like someone else said.When I had a t25 setup on a lude I ran one anyways and I honestly don't remember seeing a restrictor in the inlet but then again I wasn't looking for it,but thats the first time I ever heard it had one.Search on some dsm forums

Re: DSM turbo set up on F22b DOHC accord
 

well i guess i dont know anything huh well these fellas seem to have the same idea i was thinking lol ------ jackass :6