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marc_vtec 01-23-2007 05:40 PM

Done :D Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
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Saturday and Sunday

Right…

Firstly we needed to remove some bits off the front of the car to make things easier..

Off came the front bumper, radiator, slam panel, the intake and the exhaust manifold…

Then (mainly cause I wanted to do the interesting things first) I quickly test fitted the intercooler and some charge piping + the dump valve

Charge piping wouldn’t go around perfectly so its time to break out the angle grinder..




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Starting to look the part… albeit a little wonky

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Next is a trial fit of the turbo and manifold to make sure it all lines up properly

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Which it dosent……

Inlet housing isn’t clearing the block

…out comes the angle grinder again

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Now it all sits in perfectly

Needed to ‘modify’ the bolts connecting the adapter flange (mason stop laughing) to the manifold


Cue angle grinder!
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Perfect!

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And look what we found…. Possible the flattest mouse ever

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Pancake mouse got popular and I even had several people offer me money for it… even 2 people from the states wanted me to ship it over!

Unfortunately it ran away 

Started to bolt everything back together tightly needed some slight adjusting here and there…..



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We don’t let the dark get in the way of progress on swc!!! Bring out the house lamps!

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Some angle grinding fun

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Some strange people turned up….

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And how it stood until the next weekend…

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Weekend arrives……

Time for the messy stuff, off comes the sump and a quick drive down to cowboys trucker friends to drill my sump as I didn’t have a drill bit big enough.

They even let me use their pressure washer to clean it… came up great

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All put back together, had to trim the oil return line as it was a little too long, had I left it oil could have backed up into the turbo past the seals and made a lot of smoke…

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So… I sit back for a moment… its done… it should now run…

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Last few checks are made and I bolt up the down pipe I originally had… as you may be able to tell it doesn’t fit properly.

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Starts at the first turn of the key, even though it ran like a bag of crap I was very happy…

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Yay, now its running I need to sort that downpipe out….

So I book into prospeed the following Saturday. now you may notice that may radiator still hasn’t been fitted… this is due to the charge piping getting in its way, so a few weeks before hand I ordered a half sized radiator from a civic which would not only fit in, but being an aluminium duel core, give me better cooling.


Friday…

…arrives and radiator hasn’t arrived as id been promised… start to panic



…then I realise my brother (chesh_civic) owns a nice shiny civic…

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Some thieving later..

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Saturday (early) morning…

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And we arrive at pro speed

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Some hours later and a lot of swearing from Charlie, bling down pipe is finished
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Time to drive home…. Ran horribly but made it…

…just

Sunday (Even earlier) Morning

Accompanied by my fellow biatch (Ginge) we awake at 5:00 am, did intend to get up at 4 but I turned my alarm off by accident instead of pressing snooze... Grabbed some essentials like crisps, coke, sweets and a blanket for ginge to sleep with (-----). I didn’t bring any tools… at all.. which was very very stupid but my brain dosent work at that time in the morning.

We set off and get to Cardiff gate where I decide to check everything out and make sure theres no leak… just to put my mind at rest.

Look under the car, theres oil dripping from what looks like the oil return… not good, I ask the service station if they has a jack I could borrow, they didn’t… so I found a ramp onto a fairly high pavment…. It discover that yes the oil is leaking but its not half as bad as I thought… after some deliberation we decide to go for it and risk the rest of the 5 hour journey, I bought some oil at this point.

Every 20 minutes I pull onto the newly named (by Ginge) Crx Shoulder, to check over the car… surprisingly the oil had barely moved… and for the next 20 or so stops I only had to put about .5 of a litre of oil in. The next problem being my petrol, I was getting 40 miles to half a tank… (used to get 150 + before the conversion) im just hoping to myself the tuner can sort this out.

… lots of random ness and petrol later we arrive at the tuners in Lincoln, after a quick chat with Chris (tuner) he advises the oil leak isn’t something to worry that much about and we get started on the tuning.

Knock sensor, wideband and ecu plugged into the laptop via an ostrich emulator for some real time tuning.

Chris asks me to look at the laptop, and at idle my map sensor is showing boost and letting the injectors run a constant 80% duty cycle for the entire journey!
Long story short, we discover my dump valve is leaking and screwing my map sensor up at treat. Disconnect the vacum line from the dump valve and reconnect the lines back up to the inlet manifold and it runs perfect… at this point im getting mixed emotions, im happy that the car runs good now… but im not happy that this was the reason I used so much fuel and I could have easily saved £80 on petrol 

Street tuning is weird, when he first asked me to put my foot down I thought Christ this is quick… then he asked me to do it again and it felt a million times better, I couldn’t get over the difference this guy was making by pressing a few keys on the keyboard.

End of the tuning session, car runs like normal when cruising and uses the o2 sensors, and we have a nice, safe 11.5 afr on wide open throttle…

Took us 4 hours to get home, and £15 of petrol, I couldn’t believe the mpg on the motorway… it was better than before the conversion despite going from 240cc injectors to 440cc!!

Got a few little niggles at the moment but should be sorted soon.


ososlohatch 01-23-2007 05:44 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
nice ;) solid looking setup, pancake mouse if funny as ----

Eville140 01-23-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
That is one thin ass mouse.

Nice work on the the also.

Later
Randy

AJxr 01-23-2007 05:58 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
yo ill paypal you $10 if you send that mouse to an adress i give you if you put it in a regular envelope

anyways sweet setup! using the stock front xmember? downpipe should be fun :)

ryan89crx 01-23-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
not bad! your CRX is minty O0

marc_vtec 01-23-2007 06:04 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
yep stock x memebr, hence why the downpipe i have wont fit :(


My exhaust guy is a legend however and he will find a way around it. Failing that ill bring out my trusty angle grinder again

marc_vtec 01-23-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
Oh and ive decided to put the mouse on ebay... ill send you guys the link

RENR 01-23-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
nice. good to see nukkas working out on the street. thats the hmt way.

AJxr 01-23-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
put a buy it now, i want the worlds flattest mouse

ryan89crx 01-23-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 

Originally Posted by marc_vtec
Oh and ive decided to put the mouse on ebay... ill send you guys the link

hahaha, nice!

boosted 00 black si 01-23-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
sweat :6

E-b0la 01-23-2007 07:29 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 

Originally Posted by boosted 00 black si
sweat :6

It's "sweet" not sweat. You gotta stop saying that.

ososlohatch 01-23-2007 07:42 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 

Originally Posted by E-b0la
It's "sweet" not sweat. You gotta stop saying that.

hahah sweaty setup FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!

Oscar 01-24-2007 02:05 AM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
lol, i like how you used your house lamp for lighting. straight up hmt.

very nice car dude, keep up the good job.

whats the complete setup?(turbo, engine..)

DrSeuss 01-24-2007 06:42 AM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
Working on the street is common in the uk, our country is too small to have garages.

Solid work, there always seem to be welsh or scottish people turbo'ing their cars. Something to get away from the boredom and onto the deserted roads! What are you doing for tuning?

marc_vtec 01-24-2007 07:32 AM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
Setup is on a b16a1 with standard internals (maybe going for a sleeved block next year)

air research t3 42/48 ar
Hks Cast manifold
2.5" mandreal bent charge piping
tuner toys 450 injectors
tuner toys oil lines
ebay (xs) dump valve
ebay (xs) intercooler
downpipe will be a 3" job done by pro-speed (www.pro-speedexhausts.co.uk for those interested, this guy can weld like no other O0) to match up with my 2.5" prospeed exhaust
Im using BRE for management, being tuned by a guy in lincoln on the 4th of feb ;D

sikcrx89 01-24-2007 08:54 AM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 

Originally Posted by marc_vtec
Setup is on a b16a1 with standard internals (maybe going for a sleeved block next year)

air research t3 42/48 ar
Hks Cast manifold
2.5" mandreal bent charge piping
tuner toys 450 injectors
tuner toys oil lines
ebay (xs) dump valve
ebay (xs) intercooler
downpipe will be a 3" job done by pro-speed (www.pro-speedexhausts.co.uk for those interested, this guy can weld like no other O0) to match up with my 2.5" prospeed exhaust
Im using BRE for management, being tuned by a guy in lincoln on the 4th of feb ;D

how much for your hood i need that hood

marc_vtec 01-24-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
i can get you one for about £20, ($35 ish)

but theres no way in hell im posting it to you ;D

stillnoturbo 01-24-2007 12:20 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
house lamp...now thats gangsta. what's it with car and ugly deep dish wheels in Europe?

marc_vtec 01-24-2007 01:53 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
I like my wheels, dont think they are ugly at all.. thanks for the input


you missed the 's' on car btw

BigWheeze 01-24-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 

Originally Posted by marc_vtec
I like my wheels, dont think they are ugly at all.. thanks for the input


you missed the 's' on car btw

I like that style of wheel if they are tucked under the car like yours are. I think the wheel are nice.

marc_vtec 01-24-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
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They dont look that tucked at the moment cos its jacked up...

... usually like this

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0b00st0 01-24-2007 02:37 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 

Your CRX is CCLLLEEEEAAAAAANNNN.

Nice job.




leed 01-24-2007 03:23 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
Love the house lamp and pancake mouse, hahahaha

Your CRX is pretty ------- nice too.

ichbinsobose 01-24-2007 03:59 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
Great job with everything, but you have 2 really good pictures in there, props on keeping everything including your photography clean. :6

ososlohatch 01-24-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
id rock those rims anyday of the week

baker_jeff 01-24-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
Pancake mouse for the front page!!!

Got an ebay link yet?

marc_vtec 01-24-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
got to find the bloody thing first lol

think its outside somewhere

b18. 01-24-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Story so far.... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no)
 
pancake mouse > 587hp twin turbo firebird

marc_vtec 01-28-2007 04:46 PM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
Right, all fitted and done
it start ;D


but runs like crap :( really boggy, turbo spools but dosent hit boost, getting some white/blue smoke from the downpipe...

any ideas? really noobish i know but this is my first turbo conversion

Slo_crx1 01-28-2007 04:55 PM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 

Originally Posted by marc_vtec
Right, all fitted and done
it start ;D


but runs like crap :( really boggy, turbo spools but dosent hit boost, getting some white/blue smoke from the downpipe...

any ideas? really noobish i know but this is my first turbo conversion

Oil pressure might be too high, turbine might be coked solid...hard to diagnose over the internet. What does your fuel management consist of?

marc_vtec 01-28-2007 04:59 PM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
fuel management are 450cc injectors running off bre...


didnt realise oil pressure would cause the bogging.... i have the oil restrictor from the t piece on the feed line as the flanges on the turbo were in the way of fitting it to the other end nearest the turbo... is this ok?

StanB 01-28-2007 06:34 PM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
I presumed you are running a base map. If thats the case the bogging could be caused by too much fuel. Same thing happen to me with the first base map I ran. The best way to know is to do some data logging. If you are unable to do so, go to Xenocron's website, download a BIN for a similar setup to yours, burn a chip, and try it.

FYI...treat the BINs on Xenocron's website as base maps also. They might be tuned maps for the people that posted them but not for you.

Good luck.

Oscar 01-28-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
what camera are you using?

Slo_crx1 01-28-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 

Originally Posted by marc_vtec
fuel management are 450cc injectors running off bre...


didnt realise oil pressure would cause the bogging.... i have the oil restrictor from the t piece on the feed line as the flanges on the turbo were in the way of fitting it to the other end nearest the turbo... is this ok?

I was referring to the turbo not boosting with those suggestions. If you have an exhaust leak, that could be a cause for no boost as well, or charge pipe leak. If you need a different basemap to try, I have one that I used for my old b16/sc61 setup. It'll run dog-rich on the top end with very little timing, but will be pretty damn safe until you can get some datalogging numbers to cross-reference. Also, try using an older version of BRE if you're using the newest release. The new release still has a couple bugs, but version 2.2 works fine.

marc_vtec 01-29-2007 07:28 AM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
Great, thanks all. will give the suggestions a try.


Camera is my mates Nikon SLR

EDIT: saying if the car is bogging, should it be ok to drive? Its bvooked in to be properly tuned on sunday so would it be ok to drive for say 6 or so hours?

90dx 01-29-2007 08:23 AM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
Wait to get it tuned.The build looks like some solid HMT road action O0 Sweet mouse.

marc_vtec 01-29-2007 08:26 AM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
what i mean is my tuner lives 6 or so hours away :P

chez testiclez 01-29-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
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evo_lucian 01-29-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Story so far... Uk Crx Vt (alot of pics 56k no) - All fitted, car runs like crap
 
your rex is sexy :o


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