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97spydagst 12-24-2007 03:42 AM

Do you like xs/ebay turbos/parts??
 
Ive ran 2 of them with 0 problems(both w oil restricters) one was a 57 trim the other is a 48(i think). I see them talked about in a bad way online all the time but have seen them lay down good numbers and be good turbos. What do you guys think of them? i know turbod16 hates them as does ht. Seen one put down 316 hp on a single w a mustang dyno. Another buddy layed down 270 hp on lsvtec with his 57 trim on 8 psi.

nicko360 12-24-2007 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 97spydagst
Ive ran 2 of them with 0 problems(both w oil restricters) one was a 57 trim the other is a 48(i think). I see them talked about in a bad way online all the time but have seen them lay down good numbers and be good turbos. What do you guys think of them? i know turbod16 hates them as does ht. Seen one put down 316 hp on a single w a mustang dyno. Another buddy layed down 270 hp on lsvtec with his 57 trim on 8 psi.

if you buy greddy/turbonetics/hks ---- off ebay then its okay

maybe some ssegaychrome parts are acceptible to get by, definatley not the manifolds, but in the longrun their ---- wont last long

one2many 12-24-2007 10:52 AM

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---- YEAH !!! haha 8)



bitchasscracker 12-24-2007 11:11 AM

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1 million were sold 4 were good and the other 9,999,995 were bad i wouldnt take that chance.

Scott-EP 12-24-2007 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
1 million were sold 4 were good and the other 9,999,995 were bad i wouldnt take that chance.

+1 i have seen a couple success stories and seen lots of failures.

one of these days when im rich and have money to waste, i am going to try to build a complete ssauto kit and do everything i can to make it a success, just to see if its possible

bitchasscracker 12-24-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
+1 i have seen a couple success stories and seen lots of failures.

one of these days when im rich and have money to waste, i am going to try to build a complete ssauto kit and do everything i can to make it a success, just to see if its possible


buying from ssac is like buying from blaast it a total stab in the dark

Scott-EP 12-24-2007 11:28 AM

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your not a fan of blaast? i have heard good stuff. im about to send him a t3 to go through and upgrade. any links you know of that i should see?

jarebear667 12-24-2007 12:18 PM

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depends of the parts.. turbos wear out very quickly, i have seen one with 4,ooo miles and the exhaust wheel was ate by the housing haha, and bov's seam to be okay, early ones would leak, wastegates leaking and sticking, i have had a manifold from ssac. umm.. i would say 4000 miles at 10 psi on a 16g and then around the flange the metal blew out in the runners leaving a pen size hole. intercoolers are good and the piping is goood but requires a little trimming

ososlohatch 12-24-2007 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
your not a fan of blaast? i have heard good stuff. im about to send him a t3 to go through and upgrade. any links you know of that i should see?

i'd rather g pop shop rebuild it, blasst has fuct over several people on this site just search "BLAAST JEW ------" or search 'BLAAST SHIPPING" "BLAAST QUALITY" they all should bring up interesting threads

Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 12:33 PM

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Only thing I'd buy from SS autoshit might be there wg's...even that's pushing it. Their turbos are crap, their fmic's even worse unless you like massive heat soak, their bov's leak, and their mani's crack. Nuff said?
Ghetto rigging is fine for you guys with your cheap Honda's, but when you have a $32,000 car you want parts that are known/proven/tested to be good and make power, even if it does cost more. My car will never see a no-name chinese power part on it...except for the catch can, pretty hard to ---- that one up. ::)

one2many 12-24-2007 01:16 PM

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what is wrong with people ?

is this HMT or H-T ?


even Jeff Franks rocks ssac, what makes you better the the creator of this site ? :3







97spydagst 12-24-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by one2many
what is wrong with people ?

is this HMT or H-T ?


even Jeff Franks rocks ssac, what makes you better the the creator of this site ? :3







i thought i would get a diffrent respone on this site that is why i made this thread. Ive had 2 full xs power kits and have yet to have a problem.. manifolds can be rewelded to hold,wastgate springs suck,havnt had a problem with there turbos,intercoolers did seem to head up fast on the dyno,bov dont sound the best but work,piping is nice looking but does need triming,oil lines do there job ect.. hmmm for the price they seem like a good buy maybe im just that much of a cheap ass.

Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by one2many
what is wrong with people ?

is this HMT or H-T ?


even Jeff Franks rocks ssac, what makes you better the the creator of this site ? :3







Note Jeff Frank's amount of time spent on this site lately noob. There's a good reason for it. Also, I don't own a ghetto-fied junktastic Honda anymore. When I owned my old hatchback I built everything for it, tuned everything on it, did all my own work. I've put my time in on this site and have helped out more people locally and country-wide, and I've seen what works and what doesn't from personal experience, not what some random idiot posts on the web. I've been in the boost game for 10 years, probably right around the time you as a little kid started fingering your ass while drooling over stupid-street magazine.
Would you in all honesty want to use parts that are known to be junk? For your $100 piece of ---- maybe you would, but get real...would you put this crap on a $32,000 car? I think not. And if you had been around when Jeff Frank did his SSAC testing like I was you would see even he said it was junk. I highly suggest you shut up and learn for while before you open your mouth and prove you're an idiot.

Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 97spydagst
i thought i would get a diffrent respone on this site that is why i made this thread. Ive had 2 full xs power kits and have yet to have a problem.. manifolds can be rewelded to hold,wastgate springs suck,havnt had a problem with there turbos,intercoolers did seem to head up fast on the dyno,bov dont sound the best but work,piping is nice looking but does need triming,oil lines do there job ect.. hmmm for the price they seem like a good buy maybe im just that much of a cheap ass.

It all boils down to you get what you pay for. For one, it's all outsourced to China. There is no R&D work done on these parts, they just blatantly copy other people's work with inferior materials and pass them off as just as good. I'm sorry if I'm coming off as some "holier than thou" type of dude, but I've had too many dealings with these shady parts to hold them in high standards like many others do. Some of their things do work fine for the budget minded guy who just wants a little taste of boost, but for long term power production and reliability I don't recommend anything from them. During the spring/summer/fall months I'll usually get at least 50-75 calls a month from people running these kits and wondering why they're having problems.

one2many 12-24-2007 02:14 PM

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slo_crx1, mist bone was right about you. and not just in the cam profiling.

Smokey 12-24-2007 02:17 PM

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I'm on my 2nd SSAC manifold. My first one, i welded it as soon as i got it at the collector where it meets the flange, and i never had any issues with it. I just bought another one from them for $108. This one looks much better than the first, but even if the welds were shitty, i can't buy the tubing and flanges for what i paid for the manifold complete. As for other parts, i would never use a turbo or wastegate from them, but a BOV, or charge pipes, or an intercooler i would think should be fine. Obviously if you are looking for high power, or consistant reliability on a daily driver, CDM parts are not the way to go. But if you've got a project car that you want to make a little faster, and you are broke, SSAC ---- is the way to go.

Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by one2many
slo_crx1, mist bone was right about you. and not just in the cam profiling.

How so? Bone never replied back to me about the cam profiles anyway. Go ahead and build your shitty chinese turbo kits, but don't cry to me when they break. Let's hear your ever so wise opinion on this junk, since obviously you've just proven to be much more knowledgeable in this subject than me. ::) Go ahead...name one chinese part that's better than the original piece it copied...go ahead, I dare you.

Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokey
Obviously if you are looking for high power, or consistant reliability on a daily driver, CDM parts are not the way to go. But if you've got a project car that you want to make a little faster, and you are broke, SSAC ---- is the way to go.

You sir have hit the nail on the head.

97spydagst 12-24-2007 02:40 PM

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slo_crx i understand what your saying if i had a 30k car i wouldnt use this stuff cause having a car like that means i can afford nice parts.. but most of us just have normal 0-8k cars that we play with and mod on low funds.. If i had a full race car would i use most of it NO but i was just asking for the averge guy if they run/like xs power stuff.

junkyg20 12-24-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Go ahead...name one chinese part that's better than the original piece it copied...go ahead, I dare you.

Real greddy BOVs are so shitty the knockoffs are usually no worse.

97spydagst 12-24-2007 02:47 PM

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here a vid i put together of my buddys dynoing there cars
http://www.mydeo.com/videosavecopy.asp? ... CID=150240 both are using cheap mani's and the single is using the full kit..we did notice on the dyno with more boost he made less power,and the intercooler heated up very fast.

Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 97spydagst
slo_crx i understand what your saying if i had a 30k car i wouldnt use this stuff cause having a car like that means i can afford nice parts.. but most of us just have normal 0-8k cars that we play with and mod on low funds.. If i had a full race car would i use most of it NO but i was just asking for the averge guy if they run/like xs power stuff.

I completely understand what you're saying. I've used certain chinese parts in the past on cheap builds too.

Originally Posted by junkyg20
Real greddy BOVs are so shitty the knockoffs are usually no worse.

The older Greddy bov's weren't too bad. The newer Type Rs's have issues with the diaphragms over time, they tend to dry rot. That just goes along with common sense, if you know a part's going to fail (even a good name one) you really wouldn't want to spend the money on it.

Originally Posted by 97spydagst
here a vid i put together of my buddys dynoing there cars
http://www.mydeo.com/videosavecopy.asp? ... CID=150240 both are using cheap mani's and the single is using the full kit..we did notice on the dyno with more boost he made less power,and the intercooler heated up very fast.

That's pretty typical with the cheaper cores they use. For low boost they're fine compared to no IC at all, but they heatsoak and lose efficiency pretty fast at higher boost. For most of you guys that's fine, for me specifically where I run 23+psi it's a big no-no.

one2many 12-24-2007 03:08 PM

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why are you still here when you are so much better then us ? ??? ?




Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by one2many
why are you still here when you are so much better then us ? ??? ?




Get a life fag. ::) I haven't seen you offer any real information yet other than running your mouth and telling other noobs how great chinese turbos are. :P

one2many 12-24-2007 03:30 PM

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better none then incorrect/biest like you. ^-^


Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by one2many
better none then incorrect/biest like you. ^-^


This from the guy that can't even spell "biased" properly. ::) Get back to school young buck. If my information that I post is incorrect, it usually becomes known.

jacer63 12-24-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Note Jeff Frank's amount of time spent on this site lately noob. There's a good reason for it. Also, I don't own a ghetto-fied junktastic Honda anymore. When I owned my old hatchback I built everything for it, tuned everything on it, did all my own work. I've put my time in on this site and have helped out more people locally and country-wide, and I've seen what works and what doesn't from personal experience, not what some random idiot posts on the web. I've been in the boost game for 10 years, probably right around the time you as a little kid started fingering your ass while drooling over stupid-street magazine.
Would you in all honesty want to use parts that are known to be junk? For your $100 piece of ---- maybe you would, but get real...would you put this crap on a $32,000 car? I think not. And if you had been around when Jeff Frank did his SSAC testing like I was you would see even he said it was junk. I highly suggest you shut up and learn for while before you open your mouth and prove you're an idiot.

what an asshat..^^^ ive been rockin a xs mani with no problems,turbo is holdin up too .runnin 15 psi at times. all i did was ordered a garrett rebuild kit. there kit has chamfered bearingfs. take your 32,000 car and shove it up your ass

Slo_crx1 12-24-2007 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jacer63
what an asshat..^^^ ive been rockin a xs mani with no problems,turbo is holdin up too .runnin 15 psi at times. all i did was ordered a garrett rebuild kit. there kit has chamfered bearingfs. take your 32,000 car and shove it up your ass

---- off dick. It's pukes like you ------ noobs running off the coat tails of people who started boosting Hondas in the beginning that give us and the industry a bad name. I've paid my dues, boosted more cars than your age and IQ combined, and contributed a lot to the Honda community in general. Just because I happen to have a lot of respect for people with innovation isn't a good reason to jump on the band wagon and say I'm an ass hat. The only thing these leaches do is copy other people's hard work and pass off as their own. If the car community as a whole stopped coming out with new parts completely, I guarantee companies like SSautoshit wouldn't have anything new and fantastic to offer either. What happened to people taking pride in their work? Or learning to make their own parts? Do you honestly think that us in the very beginning had any of these junk resources at our fingertips? NO. We had to make what we needed, and make work what we needed. I hope that everyone who runs these pieces of ---- will end up with compressor wheel parts in their motor, maybe then you'll learn your lesson. There is homemade and homemade quality, and there is this junk. By all rights you idiots shouldn't even be on this site, there is nothing homemade about buying a junk kit and tossing it on your car. This ranks up there buying a greddy or edelbrock kit and throwing on your car, but at least they have quality. Let's see your quality and innovation. You are the reason I and many others have no respect for the new generation of Honda tools. So take your junk xs-turblow mani and shove it back up your ass, maybe you'll get lucky and it won't crack once it hits your balls.

Inquisition 12-24-2007 08:51 PM

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Slo is right. I'm not much of a n00b basher but sooner or later you will come to the conclusion driving around in a decent car you don't have to worry about all the time is worth the extra money. I know I learned that lesson very quickly. Now all I want is a decent daily driver and this:

http://www.superlitecars.com/img_roa...dster_1_fs.jpg

sikcrx89 12-24-2007 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
---- off dick. It's pukes like you ------ noobs running off the coat tails of people who started boosting Hondas in the beginning that give us and the industry a bad name. I've paid my dues, boosted more cars than your age and IQ combined, and contributed a lot to the Honda community in general. Just because I happen to have a lot of respect for people with innovation isn't a good reason to jump on the band wagon and say I'm an ass hat. The only thing these leaches do is copy other people's hard work and pass off as their own. If the car community as a whole stopped coming out with new parts completely, I guarantee companies like SSautoshit wouldn't have anything new and fantastic to offer either. What happened to people taking pride in their work? Or learning to make their own parts? Do you honestly think that us in the very beginning had any of these junk resources at our fingertips? NO. We had to make what we needed, and make work what we needed. I hope that everyone who runs these pieces of ---- will end up with compressor wheel parts in their motor, maybe then you'll learn your lesson. There is homemade and homemade quality, and there is this junk. By all rights you idiots shouldn't even be on this site, there is nothing homemade about buying a junk kit and tossing it on your car. This ranks up there buying a greddy or edelbrock kit and throwing on your car, but at least they have quality. Let's see your quality and innovation. You are the reason I and many others have no respect for the new generation of Honda tools. So take your junk xs-turblow mani and shove it back up your ass, maybe you'll get lucky and it won't crack once it hits your balls.

couldnt have said it any better

QikEnuF 12-24-2007 10:01 PM

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Thank God Hotrex Is Back

TGHIB

HondaTuner 12-24-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
---- off dick. It's pukes like you ------ noobs running off the coat tails of people who started boosting Hondas in the beginning that give us and the industry a bad name. I've paid my dues, boosted more cars than your age and IQ combined, and contributed a lot to the Honda community in general. Just because I happen to have a lot of respect for people with innovation isn't a good reason to jump on the band wagon and say I'm an ass hat. The only thing these leaches do is copy other people's hard work and pass off as their own. If the car community as a whole stopped coming out with new parts completely, I guarantee companies like SSautoshit wouldn't have anything new and fantastic to offer either. What happened to people taking pride in their work? Or learning to make their own parts? Do you honestly think that us in the very beginning had any of these junk resources at our fingertips? NO. We had to make what we needed, and make work what we needed. I hope that everyone who runs these pieces of ---- will end up with compressor wheel parts in their motor, maybe then you'll learn your lesson. There is homemade and homemade quality, and there is this junk. By all rights you idiots shouldn't even be on this site, there is nothing homemade about buying a junk kit and tossing it on your car. This ranks up there buying a greddy or edelbrock kit and throwing on your car, but at least they have quality. Let's see your quality and innovation. You are the reason I and many others have no respect for the new generation of Honda tools. So take your junk xs-turblow mani and shove it back up your ass, maybe you'll get lucky and it won't crack once it hits your balls.

Heh. :l Don't pick a fight with slo. Your asses just got owned :P

one2many 12-24-2007 10:22 PM

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N I G G E R please !

Scott-EP 12-25-2007 07:36 AM

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http://www.nick15.com/images2/niger_please.jpg

sikcrx89 12-25-2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by one2many
N I G G E R please !

keep rocking your junk ---- then.. we are trying to tell what IS going to happen.. but i look forward to your why didnt i buy a good manifold and turbo,or why did my manifold crack..some stupid ---- like that.. it will only be a matter of time.. you guys are the pussies that by all your ---- run 7 psi becasue you want to hear the noise o rtell all your buddies i built my own turbo kit so they will think you some kind of guru.. most of the guys on this site were doing this before you stopped shitting on yourself. so either LISTEN or shut the ---- up..

one2many 12-25-2007 11:29 AM

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20+psi bitch !

turbo holding strong, i dont rock there manis. ;D


CDM 8)



Slo_crx1 12-25-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by one2many
20+psi bitch !

turbo holding strong, i dont rock there manis. ;D


CDM 8)



Hah! 20+psi of pure heat then. Go do your 20 psi rippers and see how hot your intake gets. Ever take a look at the maps they "supply" with those junkers? Copies of the real deal Garrett maps, those aren't even close. Datalog some ---- and you'll see...oh wait, you probably don't know how to do that either. :P

Originally Posted by sikcrx89
keep rocking your junk ---- then.. we are trying to tell what IS going to happen.. but i look forward to your why didnt i buy a good manifold and turbo,or why did my manifold crack..some stupid ---- like that.. it will only be a matter of time.. you guys are the pussies that by all your ---- run 7 psi becasue you want to hear the noise o rtell all your buddies i built my own turbo kit so they will think you some kind of guru.. most of the guys on this site were doing this before you stopped shitting on yourself. so either LISTEN or shut the ---- up..

You said it in a nutshell Marcus.

one2many 12-25-2007 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Hah! 20+psi of pure heat then. Go do your 20 psi rippers and see how hot your intake gets. Ever take a look at the maps they "supply" with those junkers? Copies of the real deal Garrett maps, those aren't even close. Datalog some ---- and you'll see...oh wait, you probably don't know how to do that either. :P

makes power. dyno proven. iat's are in the normal range for a turbocharged vehicle, nothing too excessive.

like i told you before; you know nothing. 8)


few more things...........



Slo_crx1 12-25-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by one2many
makes power. dyno proven. iat's are in the normal range for a turbocharged vehicle, nothing too excessive.

like i told you before; you know nothing. 8)


few more things...........



Hahahaha...I know nothing...that's funny. And what's your idea of "normal range" for a turbo charged vehicle? I don't know about you, but I only see a 8-10* increase over outside temps when in the 50-60* range, and a max of 15-16* during those nice warm 80* days at 23-25psi and no meth/water, tdo5hr/16g6/10.2cm^2. Most jackie chan turbo's are out of there efficiency range past 15psi, so unless you tell me you've got some massive Garrett/Honeywell FMIC core I call bullshit. Let me help you out on this...
http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~v/c...ps/t04e-57.gif
Garrett t3/to4e 57 trim, your jackie chan turbo is not going to be anywhere near this map...and even on this map giving you the undersized displacement benefit of the doubt of 1.6 liters, at 21psi and a VE of 85% you're nearing 2.43 P/R at 31lb/min. At 1.8 liters oh, look at that...stepping closer to the 35lb/min. 2.0 P/R is your best range for efficiency and low heat production...on a real deal Garrett. Get my point?

one2many 12-25-2007 12:18 PM

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i dont think there is a map for the turbo im running. ;)



it wasnt one off the shelf if you know what i mean.

you are a tard. give up and stick to you pos dsm forum.





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