Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

SO, The first time around it looked like ---- ....................

My car was running in limp mode, and in open loop.... I had some electrical issues.... engine light was constantly on....

so the other day I spent 6 hours cleaning everything up .... let me know what you guys think !!!

I changed lots of stuff

Fiero 2.8L Screw-in IAT sensor
4 wire HEATED primary o2 Sensor
redid the charge piping to be able to fit the strut bar........
redid the oil return fitting and the oil return line (3/4")
moved the oil catch can and re-routed it into the intake on the turbo
and rebuilt the turbo ( it blew the hotside oil seal because the return was too small)

ON WITH THE PICS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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AFTER--------------------------------------------------------------------------

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yes all she needs now is a nice degreasing..........

now that everything is fit NICELY..... I'm starting to dress it up ...... Flat black all the way .... WOOT

heres what I have so far............

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...46_29_full.jpg

charge pipes are next ... and I'm taking the manifold to get ceramic coated with black coating ....

What do you guys think ???

Thanks

Lee

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

looks liek a solid job, i dunno how fast that could be though. i had a 22 ohv cavy, an it was balsl slow n/a and made funny noises.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

I'll tell ya

Kill list so far at 10.8psi..........

350z
2003 sti
corvette c5 (not z06)
civic turbo's

see I'm not stock...................motor

ported intake manifold, 62mm tb, engine mounts, tranny mounts, lightened flywheel, stage 3 clutch, lightened crank pulley, short shifter, gutted (stock weight = 2700lbs ...me = 2350) I drive around so gutted it's bad..., 3" exhaust side exit, full suspension, rear disk conversion, front and rear strut bar, grounding kit (haha), AFPR, FMU, PCM is reflashed to see boost..... I have more just can't think right now .... hahaha

so ya see when you do lots of work to it .... it becomes STUPID fast.....

Lee

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

Wow. Good job. :y Cool to see Non-Honda applications once in awhile. Sounds pretty quick if all you say is true. Good job. ;) ;D


JP

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

Nice setup man. I like it. Post some vids.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

i woulda call that stupid fast, but id call it nice n quick

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i call BS on the corvette kill. You would have to be making over 300hp and atleast 300 tq, and thats assuming your an amazing driver and the corvette sucks because it makes 400hp and 400 tq to the crank and its not heavy for that power as its only 3,179 lbs. So you sir are full of shat

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

i was thinking the same thing.

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i think the before pic looks better than the after pic... the pipes look like they are custom and are ran nicely...

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I will be turbocharging my 2001 2.2L s10 with the 2200 engine. There isnt much room under the hood with a/c, antilock breaks,the steering shaft, ect to use a turbo manifold, so i am going to remotely mount the turbo after the stock exaust manifold, up infront of the radiator where the engine driven fan used to be. With 20" rims and the auto 4speed tranny my truck is pretty slow with about 85 whp and 115 crank hp. I shoudl be able to get 220-240hp out of the stock engine. They have 8.-8.5 low compression pistons stock, and i also just found out that eagle makes a set of forged rods for the 2200, along with arp headstuds and commetic headgaskets.
http://www.forumsigs.com/users/adam3...o22pic33no.jpg
http://www.forumsigs.com/users/adam3...o22pic20cp.jpg

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

I doubt the C5 kill, but C5 don't make 400/400 at the crank. 300-ish to the wheels, maybe. It was probably a slow 6 spd car, those noticeably slower and put less to the wheels than the autos for GM knows what reason.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

Okay some food for thought.................

since you didn't READ my post.... NOT a Z06....... ::)

because you have NO idea what your talking about.............. lets weigh some options here....
then I guarentee you will change your previous statement.....

Stock car weight (cavalier) 2700lbs.....

My curb weight (cavalier) 2350lbs.....

so lets just say 1 tenth for every 100 lbs.......

next... I think you are getting mixed up by when I said C5.... all that means is a model year........

320BHP & 340 BTQ...........weighing in at 3248lbs.......

so lets say 15% drive train loss.....

272WHP & 289 WTQ weighing in at 3248lbs with a young 25 year old behind the wheel of this corvette

231WHP & 241 WTQ weighing in at 2349lbs....2001 2200 turbo :y

so this works out to about a 1000lbs weight difference.... that alone is good for 1 second in the 1/4......

corvette runs 13.7 1/4 with a GREAT driver perfect run 6 speed manual.....
cavalier runs 14.1 - 14.0 1/4........@ 6psi...... without the new 3" mandrel exhaust I got.... (Side exit, no cat, no muffler) weighed 2450 at the time of the runs ........

DO THE ------- MATH PEOPLE.... AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN ADD................ :8

I ran the corvette at 10.8 psi and had the 3" exhaust on the car.........

I know another guy running 14 psi.... he pulls 4 cars on corvettes with the same set up as me ... and I have more work done then he does.......bolt on wise.....
I'm lighter with almost the same hp as the vette

and a WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY higher whp/weight ratio....

do the math before you go calling bs on a car you have never seen.............

I drive on the street gutted to ----, with the 3" exhaust spitting flames and all............... :6

DON'T FOX WITH ME ;)

did you not read the post above with all the OTHER things I have besides the turbo set up .....
I have EVERYTHING but a motor.... which is in my basement............. being built... slowly but surely......


Lee

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

we need video confermation. i still cant envision that 2.2 ohv rattle trap to be quick. they are so incredibly crude.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

feed me all the facts you want i still dont believe you. Besides, street racing is for fricking retards that are just waiting to kill them selves or worse some else, so please go die in a fire.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

230 whp 240 tq is d series ish. a d series on 11 psi will not beat a vette. and the curb weight of a ef civic with a d series on 10 psi is less than your cavy.

now lets toss in the shitty gear ratios you have in your transmission. game over.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

The newer vortech 2200 engines are not rattle traps. And no im not talking about the ecotech dohc. My 2200 in my 01 s10 is flex-fuled and can run of E85 (ethonal) or gasoline and already has 180,000miles with 0 problems running 100% and can go up to 250,000+ miles easy. They fixed the issues with the timing chain rattle, headgaskets,sidefeedinjectors,ect and it has a nice obd1 fuel injection system similar to hondas.

It may be ohv, but it is a large 2.2 that can torque threw those "crappy" gears even in my extened cab, extended bed,3 door, 4speed auto,on dubs nigga.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

W0rd. I thought Corvettes were in the 12s? 13.7 isn't fast for a sports car.


JP

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

I'm not going to doubt your victories, but you cannot take the weight loss thing to heart. With every pound you lose, that is less traction available, unless you somehow managed to drop 350lbs while keeping the weight distribution in the front wheels constant. So you may know this, but the way you wrote did not seem like it. Weight loss in a racng vehicle is not always a good thing. Your tires depend on a certain amt of weight.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

I doubt he's stripping the turbo off his engine to save weight, so there's plenty of lard over the front tires, bubba.

You've obviously never gutted a FWD; short of a few accessories like AC that mean dick in the total outcome, 95% of the weight comes from mid-vehicle back. Think about it.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

the engine is in the front, and... uhm, i think he kept it in the car. >:D

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The problem is their independent rear suspension. You'll typically see a regular corvette (ls1) run in the mid 13's, possibly low 13's if they're a good driver. They'll make about 300 wheel horse out of the box with about 340 ft/lbs of torque, which moves them pretty fast. I would suspect that if the cavy guy was making ~240 whp, he could take one.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

c5's run 13.x stock, what did pat (bbka) run again? ya.. thats what i thought.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

gutted or now, were talking about a cavalier. they suck.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

and your just a fag 17 year old kid.... so shut your mouth.....

some more info you guys don't know ......

the 2200 2001 year.......

has top feed injectors, rollar rockers, and a getrag transmission........

and my motor only has 100000 KM on it ..... so like what .....70000 mi.....

those thing combined really make my cavalier LOVE boost..........
and thats the best part..... everyone just thinks its a "CAVALIER"

I wonder why no one called "BS" on the sti kill...... 300hp......... I do those all day ........... I beat those cars multiple times.........

another classic case of someone KNOWING what they are talking about ........

remember when the numbers are so close....... and the weight is so different.... because I am front wheel drive........ the weight of my motor and turbo and heavy manifold etc.... is over the front wheels........

it's all about the driver..... I know I can drive my cavi well..... 14.0 is damn fast for a cavi on 6 psi...... move that up to 10.8 psi..... around 10hp per pound of boost......so I added another 50BHP lets say.....and a 3" exhaust....

so 14.0 becomes.......... well.... we will have to see this summer..........

my numbers are what they are.............

around 300 WHP out of the box is nothing special .... specially from a 3200lbs car........ the corvette I raced..... since it was a guy I know now ... (we stopped after to chat because he was :o)

whatever..... everytime I come on this site.... I get chewed up by some moron 17 year old that is just on here to talk ---- .............

I'm not on here to LIE about my car..... for all you know I had the sneaky pete hooked up during those runs .......

Why the ---- would I lie about my car to impress a bunch of people I don't know and never will..... come on ... anyone mature enough to understand I WOULDN'T LIE because I have no reason to..........................

AARRRRRGGGGGG

and video proof....... there is a GM small cars bash this year..... I'm going to it .... with a camera..... I'll be running 5 psi and 11psi ............. so if there are any vettes I'll get a video of AT THE TRACK racing .....

then you shall all shut up .....

thanks to all the believer out there...... that actually can put 2 and 2 together and listened to all the facts......

Lee

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I can't believe that ..... I CALL BS ON A HONDA HAVING MORE TQ THE HP......

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you guys remember this guy ................. posted a while back about over revving the motor.......

this guy has 411whp....... and 281wtq....with a sleeved b18c1........FULLY BUILT.........

your telling me that a dseries motor with 10 psi is going to get more torque to the wheels then hp.... THAT NEVER HAPPENS WITH HONDA's...........

not to mention ONLY 40wtq less then this guys fully built gsr....................... :6

there is NO ------- way ..........and I MEAN NO ------- WAY EVER............. I have burned my buddys d16 turbo by 5 or 6 cars.... at 6 psi ............ and he was running 8 psi.......

GAME OVER.............your right ............ you just proved my point .......

Lee

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

yeah with lsd, slicks and a redline launch. i dont see people rolling around with those on the street ::)

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i said d series ISH jesus your gay. any way you slice it, your cavy is a pile of ----.

230 whp is still nowhere near fast.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

You need to calm down buddy. I just supported what you said, so chill the ---- out. STI's are slow, don't don't think you can compare it to a C5 Corvette. They make about 245 horse to the wheels through drivetrain loss.

That is a honda B series, which time and time again will produce more hp than torque because it makes power at higher rpm, not lower. Do a search on here, there are plenty of D16's, with smaller turbos, that create more torque than horsepower. If you knew anything about port velocity, you would know that it typically reduces torque numbers.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

amen, i need to plug up my ports some i can make some cavy torque....whoooo

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

haha.

i agree with hotrex. no matter what, its gonna be a piece of ----. i may be 17, but im not here talking ---- about how ------ fast my cavalier is.

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

haha you drive a piece of ---- crx... like 88 -93???? I could buy that for $500.00..... I drive a NEW cavalier..... in mint shape......

you drive a rust bucket with a motor... woohoo to you ......

you made almost 400 with a fully built motor... thats a joke....

and I was respecting the fact that you said it .....

read the post again .... I said classic case of some one who KNOWS what they are talking about ... I was saying that you KNOW the numbers... DID the math and you came to a correct conclusion.....not knocking you......

so YOU chill the ---- out ;D

well what do you drive ????



and you guys must not be reading my posts fully.....

I hit a near 13.9 @ 6 psi ................. without the 3" exhaust
I ran the vette @ 10.8psi.......with the 3" exhaust...............

that right there should bring me into the 13.5 - 13.6 range..............

how hard is it to believe that I can take a vette on the street............specially since it was some punk persian guy........... that was giving me dirty looks.....

seriously.......

well just wait till I get videos.... I'll dig this post up .... and laugh in your face......

Lee

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

Yep. They are right up there with the Honduh Civic, Nissan Sentra, Ford Fuckus, and all those other FWD econobox jokes. I mean, let's keep in perspective *exactly* what 95% of HMT users drive... FWD Honduh econobox hatchcrap that suck.

Cavalier guy, welcome home. Some of these other guys may not like it, but you're one of us, bro. :6

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

alot of d-series motors make more torque then hp cuz of the stroke of the motor

crxs are dope doesnt matter that is 88-91 ::)


props to u for your build

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

well since according to your JBO sig, and profile, your fastest time was 14.6 on 6psi and you just told someone on there that also.. i doubt that this is true
your sig from JBO http://x4.putfile.com/1/2311415536.jpg

i think you are full of ----, and all of a sudden you gained 9 whp?? before you dyno'd with 222whp with a dyno sheet, but now your signature on here says 231whp??
http://registry.gmenthusiast.com/ima...ees%20Dyno.jpg
i think your full of yourself

so lets start over your mid 14 second car against a high to mid 13 second car, i'm gonna call bs on that also...get your head out of your ass and stop with the bragging/lieing

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your right 389whp in a b16a yup 1.6 is awefully terrible. so whats so fully built about it.?? its a stock sleeve b16a with stock head cams and intake manifold. just pistons and rods. id ont have any boltons, ect like your pile of ----. stock b16a 1.6 liters of fury. 389whp. get a rope

im throwing on my new built head, itr cams and intake mani and redynoing for the better side of 400whp.

whats really sad is, your full of ----. 230whp in a cavalier no less, is just lame.

ill make a video, you make a video, well see whose ---- looks lame.

taking the teg to englishtown on sunday on some undersized 20x8x14 slicks.

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Nice car :y ---- the haters

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

vettes arnt that fast... i believe him..i rode in one and was disgusted... and there were 3 once at our 1/8 mile track and they only ran 9.6's... thats fucken pathetic... my stock probe ran a 10.0

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Dude chill out. You come on here acting like your cavalier is the best thing since sliced bread. Face it, if you are really making the numbers you say, that motor will not last so I really do hope you're building another. Also, I don't know why you're raving about driving a "2001" ohv cavalier. The resale on your car sucks did, the ride quality and interior sucks. Get a rope.








Did I mention I drive a cavalier?

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

no pete, you drive your moms mini-van. you have a parked cavi that you blew up. :3

your caviler is a pile of ----

Re: Cavalier 2200 TURBO....... Before and After PICS INSIDE BITCHES
 

W0rd. He had some traction help most of us neglect.


I was told that FWD cars on the road on a roll can beat faster RWD cars from someone on here (sorry, I forget once again :-\). I don't know about smoking D-Series because without slicks and LSD BBKA still would have threw down higher mid-range 13s I think.


JP