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Old 03-14-2006, 09:11 AM
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Okay this first question is a bit weird and has not been figured out yet. When I am driving my car and am in gear between the RPM range of about 3000 to anything higher and I let off the gas just to coast in gear. When I push the gas to accelerate again the car will puff out a little cloud of blue smoke? WTF It doesnt smoke when it idles it doesnt smoke on the down rev (decelleration.) The only other time it smokes is at really high RPM's/ What the hell could this be?


Ohh and do BOV's get louder over time or wear out to where everytime the blowoff it sounds like they are expoding? Mine got really loud last night everytime I go above five punds and let off it makes a really loud PSHHHTTT. Then it does the normal echo effect. I dont know it is weird.


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There are so many variables that could cause the symptoms you are having. Blow by or your rings going bad is definitly a long shot, but could be. I don't know if your car has a maf b/c if you do have one and you're VTA with your BOV, it'll cause that symptom. Maybe your turbo's seals are going. If the smoke is coming out a little after you've let off the gas after boosting, that could be another option. Are you sure it's blue smoke (oil)? If it's more black, you could be running too rich as well. You'd have to give me all the info you've got like engine, mods, tuning, etc. Seriously, start with the obvious. Pull a plug and check it out too, but a boost leak test would be a good idea especially for the BOV symptoms. If your rings are bad a compression test will most likely let you know. I would guess turbo seals, but I've only had my turbo car and been maintaining/modding it for 1.5 years, so someone else will probably know more.
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Old 03-14-2006, 12:41 PM
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MOTOR
JDM b16a
Drag turbo kit
T3/T04e turbine turbonetics
Drag cast mani
Turbonetics wastegate 8psi spring
Hondata s200b
3inch mandrel bent exhaust
type R intake mani
Type R throttle body
hondata heatsheild gasket
SRP 9 to 1 pistons
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micropolished crank knife edged
Stock sleves
SS ferra valves
skunk 2 springs and retainers
stock b16 cams
skunk 2 cam gears
MSD external coil
MSD digital 6 box W/ two step.

That is all I can think of. the smoke is a blueish white. I know that I am running in the stoich area cause i had it tuned recently plugs are all good and so is the compression test. I just cant figure it out. It doesnt smoke at the right time to be diagnosed as piston rings. It has to be something small and stupid.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:08 PM
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What are you running for the PCV? Catchcan?
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Originally Posted by mikeD16Z6
What are you running for the PCV? Catchcan?
my car is doing something similiar and I don't have a catch can or anything; the vent from the valve cover is just open to the atmospere.
Would this be related?
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Old 03-14-2006, 09:02 PM
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my car is doing something similiar and I don't have a catch can or anything; the vent from the valve cover is just open to the atmospere.
Would this be related?
I cant say for sure but you should also disconnect the PCV valve from the oil separator/black box too. You want to vent the crankcase as much as possible.
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Old 03-18-2006, 02:28 PM
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I had to bring this topic back... because the exactly same thing is happening to me...

In my case it´s a 1.3 swfti gti with a saab gt17 turbo at only 3/4psi...

I have a video showing the symptom: http://www.turboproject.pwp.blueyond...pe/Smoke_2.avi or http://rapidshare.de/files/15505125/Smoke_2.avi.html

homicydalboy - Is it like this

I´m really enclined to worn out rings?
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usually problems as such are related to either worn rings or valve seals
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If the motor is built then I think you just need to run a catchcan to get all the crap out of the crankcase. About your BOV, make sure it is working and not eating up your turbo with compressor surge.
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Originally Posted by hebijake
usually problems as such are related to either worn rings or valve seals
I have had the same issue.. I don't think its rings(the top rings) because my compression is perfect(185/190/185/190)..

I replaced my turbine shaft seal with a stagger gap seal and it seems to have helped with the problem for the most part..

but its weird, after letting my car sit for about a month and driving it again, it smoked REALLLL bad for the first 100 miles, then it settled back in, could this be valve seals?
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