big man little car
09-08-2005, 01:29 PM
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big man little car
K here is what i need help with, yes i have looked, yes im new to this honda deal, 86 stang gt, gears, pulleys, clutch, 2 chambers, so no problem moving around my big 400pnd ***, so now i have a 93 si, d16z6, im looking at an turbo, injectors, and i.c of a talon, im going to use vitara pistons (i work for suzuki!) and arp fasteners, but i keep hearing about how spindly my rods are, so my question is a: can i get away with 10pnds using this set up? And will that put me anywhere near 13's? Car is full jam except air, and like i said im a really big dude.....oh and have a local shop do a hondata program for my p28....
09-08-2005, 02:11 PM
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Re: big man little car
DOn't need Viartas to ru 10psi. Save money there.
Don't need a shop to do Hondata, Save you money, You'll be father ahead by buyer a programmer and running uberdata or chrome, plus you learn more this way and if you ever want to change something you don't need to fork out the cash to the shop.
Don't need a shop to do Hondata, Save you money, You'll be father ahead by buyer a programmer and running uberdata or chrome, plus you learn more this way and if you ever want to change something you don't need to fork out the cash to the shop.
09-09-2005, 06:36 AM
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Re: big man little car
So ten pnds on stock rods is most likely going to hurt something then? Hmmm, do i need to have the block notched to run eagle's? Well my vitara pistons are only 65 (yes for four) so that's not a big price hit at all....i just have a very limited budget, what about other honda rods? The dealer i work for ownes a honda store as well so i get stuff at cost, but is there any stronger rods in the honda family i can run? Thanks for the input guys, i appreciate it.....
09-09-2005, 06:43 AM
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Oh and um did you really say 15pnds with rods and vitara's? Can the block handle that? I run a stage 2 bully clutch now, not sure how that would live either, kinda dumb question i know but power levels are what around that level of boost? ballpark?
09-09-2005, 09:23 AM
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Putting Viartas in is going to lower you compression a bit. They may be a little beter then a Honda Piston, but there still not forged.
Personally, I would never waste my time with them even if they were free.
BBKA runs 12psi Stock block, rods, pistons, head and has 230whp and lays down 12sec passes. It's all in the tuning. People have put 250whp stock. How long that will last
?? Your rods will handle 10psi no prob. If you tune right, the pistons will too. The durability of your motor at 10psi is all in you tuning. I have run 9psi with 20+psi spikes while trying to turn it up to 12psi. It has been like this for 1.5yrs, and the motor is as strong as the day I boosted it. The only thing I broke was a Head Gasket, not bad for a 17yr old motor.
Personally, I would never waste my time with them even if they were free.
BBKA runs 12psi Stock block, rods, pistons, head and has 230whp and lays down 12sec passes. It's all in the tuning. People have put 250whp stock. How long that will last
?? Your rods will handle 10psi no prob. If you tune right, the pistons will too. The durability of your motor at 10psi is all in you tuning. I have run 9psi with 20+psi spikes while trying to turn it up to 12psi. It has been like this for 1.5yrs, and the motor is as strong as the day I boosted it. The only thing I broke was a Head Gasket, not bad for a 17yr old motor.
09-09-2005, 10:07 AM
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That's some big boost spikes, well the shop i will use to tune knows their ----, the guy that ownes it runs a low low 11 sec civic, and a 10 sec talon, they have an in house dyno so he will do my p28. My biggest goal is to run a 13 anything, i have an apprentice tech that works for me at my shop, he has a 92 hatch, zero options, with a j spec gsr driveline, runs 14 flat on radial at 99mph in like 90degree weather, that being said he has big money in teh car and laughs at H.M.T when i tell him about the nutso ---- you guys do with your cars....so i wanna spend little or no cash and be able to run door to door with him....ok, so on eagle roda, and vitara's and good good tune, 1g 450's, walbro in tank, does anyone figure i can get away with 15pnds? Um, did i mention teh car and driver are big heavy pigs??
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09-09-2005, 11:06 AM
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Stock D16 bottom end, thick head gasket to lower CR, ARP headstuds, Y8 or aftermarket IM, and T3/T04E has been a proven combination for 300-330 whp in a D-series. Yup, engine life is short, but at 225-250 people seem to go through ring lands (thermal management problem, not power related) and most of the rod damage is due to detonation or oil pump failure.
300 whp and a 2000 lb car, 11's are just suspension work and practice launching.
300 whp and a 2000 lb car, 11's are just suspension work and practice launching.
09-09-2005, 11:11 AM
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The only thing I would say if you really want to do rod/pistons and such is to either fill your block or post while your in there.
Also, eagles are nice but if all your running is Viarta and 15psi, get some tuner toys. Thats what I plan on picking up ina month or so.
Also, eagles are nice but if all your running is Viarta and 15psi, get some tuner toys. Thats what I plan on picking up ina month or so.
