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88 Fiero GT. Engine swap. Custom turbo build.
Here's mya 1988 Fiero GT. The best/last year, with the best option package. Factory leather seats, hardtop, and a 5-speed. The factory 135hp 2.8l OHV V6 is bad. God even hates it. It is slower than sh!t, heavy, unreliable, ugly, leaks everything, smokes a lot, won't pass emissions, idles like a cammed Honda, sounds like a bucket of marbles past 5,000rpm (If you can manage to get it there), etc. It's bad.
So I do an engine swap. The brand new crate engine, a 3.4 DOHC V6, is for a 95 Grand Prix GTP, making 210hp/215tq stock with 9.25:1 SCR. Since I'm way smarter than any GM engineer, I decided to fix it. So I took off the brand new heads. On goes a fully ported/polished set of heads, flowing 325/227 cfm at half inch. On top of those goes a set of 48g lifters, 40% lighter than stock (Reciprocating mass is bad). The cams are stock, no one makes cams for it. Then goes on a 96+ intake manifold, which has larger, shorter runners with 3 times the plenum volume, and a brand new Northstar throttle body, which is 75mm (Stock is 64). Fueling is done by a Walbro 255 intank, and flow matched 42.5 injectors (Stock is 23), all controlled by a Split Second FTC1 piggyback. Getting it out is a set of tuned equal length headers that I built, with 1.75" X 20" primaries, into dual 2.5" collectors. These Y into the Garrett GT35R dual ball-bearing, water-cooled turbocharger. It is one big, expensive, bada$$ turbo. Then there is a TiAL Sport 38mm external wastegate, with a 8.7psi spring. The charge side leads to a 800hp water to air intercooler, then to the HKS SSQV blowoff valve. I used household 9/16" copper tubing to runt he IC water system to the front of the car, where it runs through a Kawasaki sportbike radiator. On the power draw side, I've removed power steering and the A/C system. I put down 417whp, and 427wtq at 14psi, with a really bad tune. The 1.25 correction factor was because the dyno is in Colorado. Since turbo cars are still affected by altitude, but only half as much as N/A cars, the more realistic figure is 376whp. Still brutally fast in a 2800lb car that hooks up like it's got slicks. I've got the tune worked out much better now, I'm hoping to put down around the same numbers, but at 10psi. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/1d3c4c30.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/6c1d3d58.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/eac7bb4d.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/05fd72f7.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../FieroAndI.jpg Old piece of sh!t: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010023.jpg New piece of sh!t: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010001.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010002.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010006.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010007.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010008.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010009.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010010.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010011.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/P1010012.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine20.jpg Powdercoated cradle, engine mounts, and fuel lines. Because that's how I roll. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine22.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine28.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine34.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine37.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine41.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine61.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine66.jpg Buying headers is for people with money. I don't have any money. My Fiero has all of my money. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine75.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine76.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine78.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine77.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine79.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine85.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine88.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine87.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine90.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine91.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine94.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine95.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine98.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/Engine99.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../Engine100.jpg |
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Now that those with 56k have burned in hell....
Here is the dyno chart. Look at that tune baby! https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ero/34dyno.jpg And here are some videos. The highway sprint was done at 8.7psi, with the crappy tune. I've since got the tune much better. Idle/freerev: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...rbo_193915.htm 0-75 getting on the highway: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...rbo_193913.htm Dyno vid (4th gear): http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...rbo_194049.htm |
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I like your cat and I want more pics of the 55 chevy. Thanks for breaking it down for us like were retards. :1
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NOOB OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Awesome setup. Good writeup too. When is it going to the track?
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I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not....So....I'll just keep my mouth shut....
I don't think the breakdown was that bad, it can be quite confusing looking under the decklid, trying to figure out WTF is going on with all of the hoses and ----. At any rate, that was basically a cut and paste from other forums. I was on a budget, however, since I did all of the work myself (Minus the aluminum welding), I actually fared pretty well. I was able to use top shelf components, top shelf quality, and get top shelf results. I basically kept to my goals, which was to have the entire swap quiet enough and reliable enough to daily drive, fit under the stock decklid, retain the stock trunk (Without burning the ---- inside of it), keep the charge pipe volume to an absolute minimum, and take every route possible to reduce lag. Although the turbo doesn't come on hard until 4,000rpm, anywhere above that and the lag is not even noticeable. I'm overall happy with how it drives, although I do wish the turbo would come on a bit sooner. But that's the price I pay for picking a large turbocharger, and running it at low pressure ratios and flow. I'm pretty much done with the Fiero though, and should be getting a new job here pretty soon, so I'm hoping to sell the Fiero, and embark on a new project. I want to build my own car, from the ground up. Carbon fiber frame, mid mounted RWD LSX, and a target weight of 1500lbs in a full size, 2 door, 2 seater. As requested, here are pics of the 55 (By the way, good catch!). As you said, it is a 55 Bel Air, 2 Door hardtop with posts. It is my father and I's project car. It has a 406ci small block, on a relatively stock rebuild (400 + .030, mild comp cam, mild port and 2.02 valves on the stock heads). To liven it up a bit, I put on a small Weiand blower, a Demon 750 carb, and a full MSD ignition. The sound, and the power, are spectacular. For being such a cheap, and way undersized blower, it's ------- awesome! Right now the engine is out of the car, the front clip is off, and the interior is gutted while it awaits a frame-off restoration. But we're in no hurry, as you can tell (The dates in the camera are correct... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...vy57-1copy.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...vy57-4copy.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/P1100048.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/P5180048.jpg How it sits now: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ir/Belair4.jpg |
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you got some nice ----, but you still get the douche of the year award for wearing a button up shirt outside in winter
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that 55 is nice, I would beat your fiero like a red hair'd step child if it was mine. Good work
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Originally Posted by g_shok
you got some nice ----, but you still get the douche of the year award for wearing a button up shirt outside in winter
As for the shirt...Uhhh...I think it was actually fairly warm out that day, I know I drove the car all of the way to Denver, so the roads must have been clear, as Fieros don't really do snow. Here are some pics from that night. I don't remember much, I went out with a friend and his single mom, whose date ended up dropping like $300 between steaks and drinks >:D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../ColdFiero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ColdFiero2.jpg And with the friend's Fiero, soon to get the N* http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ColdFieros.jpg
Originally Posted by highroller54
that 55 is nice, I would beat your fiero like a red hair'd step child if it was mine. Good work
I may take it to the track one of these days, but I'm not sure if I want to subject it to that abuse for a few numbers. The Fiero launches like it's got AWD, I get very minimal tire spin. This breaks ---- lol. |
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lol'd
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Ouch, ya'll are harsh.
But, you explain everything in your own signature. "i guess jealousy is a bitch" |
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yeah were jealous ha
cool project though i guess, same old hondas get boring. to bad GM motors are crappy and the inside of those fieros look like your in the cockpit of a 70s speed boat. at least there rwd, i used to think they were the coolest when i was like 10 :1 |
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Aarons an ------- from realfierotech that knows everything about everything..
But builds nice stuff.. Post porn. thought you said you got into an accident with the car? |
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Welcome fiero ------- tech. I likes the build. Not my personal preference but props for making lemonade from lemons. :P
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are you the same Aaron from GAGT?
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Killer setup, made even better since its mostly your work! My friend is basicly doing the same thing, except he's building the motor but using a smaller turbo. You may know the car, blue with silver decals like big rip marks & huge cams. Seems like you'll make a lot more power once you get the fuel situation fixed. If not for the techno-80's interiors, I'd probably have got into Fieros.
Originally Posted by AaronZ34
I put down 417whp, and 427wtq at 14psi, with a really bad tune. The 1.25 correction factor was because the dyno is in Colorado. Since turbo cars are still affected by altitude, but only half as much as N/A cars, the more realistic figure is 376whp. Still brutally fast in a 2800lb car that hooks up like it's got slicks. I've got the tune worked out much better now, I'm hoping to put down around the same numbers, but at 10psi.
The only 3 things I question on the car - why a 38mm WG, such a small intercooler rad, and WHY THE HELL not go with a divided turbine?? It would have taken all of a minute to weld in an ounce of steel to divide that collector, and you'd have gotten better spool with better topend - even with the larger divieded housing. :S |
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Originally Posted by WTF
yeah were jealous ha
cool project though i guess, same old hondas get boring. to bad GM motors are crappy and the inside of those fieros look like your in the cockpit of a 70s speed boat. at least there rwd, i used to think they were the coolest when i was like 10 :1 I can't argue the interior though, but you get used to it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/40b6e0a2.jpg
Originally Posted by Lowerit
Post porn.
thought you said you got into an accident with the car? I did, two, actually. Well, one for me, my friend crashed it the first time. But it still drives, and I'm working on getting the body put back together. Attachment 12598
Originally Posted by jo_gobel
are you the same Aaron from GAGT?
Originally Posted by HiProfile
Killer setup, made even better since its mostly your work! My friend is basicly doing the same thing, except he's building the motor but using a smaller turbo. You may know the car, blue with silver decals like big rip marks & huge cams. Seems like you'll make a lot more power once you get the fuel situation fixed. If not for the techno-80's interiors, I'd probably have got into Fieros.
One thing about altitude for boosted cars, you actually make out like a bandit because of the decrease in exhaust backpressure. Its like running a 3.5-4" exhaust over a 2.5" exhaust. Thats what a lot of people don't get, thus why all seriously-knowledgable tuners say much over +/- 5% correction is a big guess when a turbo is involved. The only time altitude is bad is when you're pushing your turbo outside it's flowmap, and 14psi a mile high isn't doing that to a GT35R. The only 3 things I question on the car - why a 38mm WG, such a small intercooler rad, and WHY THE HELL not go with a divided turbine?? It would have taken all of a minute to weld in an ounce of steel to divide that collector, and you'd have gotten better spool with better topend - even with the larger divieded housing. :S I doubt the exhaust does that much compared to some setups, as I already have a very good exhaust system. However, I would gain some by going to a 3.5 or 4", so yes, it does help. However, by the math, up here, an N/A or supercharged car loses about 21%, and a turbo car about half that. Yah, I'm well within my turbo's capacity. I actually run it on the way low side of the peak island most of the time. The 38mm because there's no need to go bigger. It doesn't creep at all, even with the 8.7 spring. And since the 38 is the smallest, and cheapest of the TiALs. The intercooler is huge. Remember it's an air to water, and since water has 14 times the heat capacity as air, your air to air would need to have 14 times the core volume to have the same thermo properties. My core is 4" x 4" x 12", so 192 cubic inches. An air to air would need to be 2688cu-in to have the same heat capacity. With a typical a/a being 3" thick by 30" long, it'd need to be 30" high to equal my a/w! That's one of the advantages of an a/w, it can be much smaller, which in a build like mine is a big advantage! Plus, I don't have anywhere to put an a/a. As for the size of the a/w, I've got no reason to go bigger. The unit is sized to handle at most 600hp. I won't ever make even 75% of that (At least, I don't want to). So it's already overkill. Add to that I've got a killer water system for it (Exposed copper lines, a large and efficient radiator as the heat exchanger, and a very large capacity system), and that I have a very efficient turbocharger running really low boost levels, and going bigger would just cost more, and take up more space. Plus the negligible effects, a larger pressure loss through the IC, and a higher charge pipe volume. As for the divided housing. I wanted to stick with a Garrett GT-R, for the ball bearing design. One of the best turbochargers ever made. They don't make a divided T4 turbine, only a T3, and I wanted to go with the T4, and I didn't want to be swapping turbines and stuff (Warranty...). And, I've never had the experience of a divided housing, this is my first turbo build/turbo car. So I was never told about divided housings and their benefits, just didn't know. More top end power isn't a big deal to me, I've got plenty, but I would like the turbo to come on faster. |
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lol another fiero...
nice build.. great numbers. I for one was not confused by the hoses and pipes ;D |
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Originally Posted by vortecfiero
lol another fiero...
nice build.. great numbers. I for one was not confused by the hoses and pipes ;D I love the avatar! |
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yes, GAGT = grandamgt.com
and thank god your not that Aaron. |
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I wantede to hate this pile of ---- as I SAW NO ------- POPRN IN THE INTRO... But I really dig the car....
And your cat but there is no Ch33ZeBurg3r in Teh Pan. L4wlZ Now dont be a faggot and post some porn (and none of that gay ----. Welcome, nice ride... Even if it is a gay ass Fiero, it could be worse, I guess.... it could be a Ford... Or an Accord LOL |
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By small intercooler, I meant the bike rad you refered to earlier as teh heat exhanger. I've never seen a street bike with a particularly large radiator, but I do know of several air-water setups that have large heat exchangers that still lead to heatsoak if you do more than a few pulls at a time. Maybe you don't look at your IAT's much? Anyways, max capacity is different from continuous capacity. For example, a particular bone-stock B16 held 560whp for several dyno pulls and a few track runs, but still blew up later (only making 300whp blown ;)).
As for the divided housings, it would be like a true dual exhaust if you know much about V8's and x-overs and crap. The dirty explaination: Turbos require high manifold pressure, which hurts exhaust scavenging; exhaust pulses can hurt further if the pressure wave hits a valve that's starting to open, or one that's at the overlap point. Dividing the cylinders evenly reduces this considerably, especially with more power/rpm. The way it helps spool the turbo is the reduced pressure needed. Each exhaust pulse has to fill half the volume of piping before it 'acts' upon the turbine wheel. You can either use a single WG (divided all the way to the valve), or two WG's if that makes it simpler. Since there's up to a 3:1 pressure differential between manifold & downpipe/dumppipe, the gases do not revert back into the other half of the divided manifold. You then increase the housing size, which still results in more power AND better response/spool. As for GT knowledge, you are lacking. A GT35 signifies roughly a T3 turbine & CHRA with a T4 compressor. So you're essentially running a T3 turbine wheel in a T4 exhaust housing. Although the housing does play a big role, the role of turbine wheel trumps that. You won't add much HP capacaity with a larger housing when you keep the same turbine wheel. Now for turbo sizing for displacement - 500whp with gasoline with produce roughly the same amount of exhaust gases, wether its on a 2.0L motor or a 4.0L motor. You do generally upsize the turbo on a bigger motor, but that's just due to the smaller cylinders burning the mixture faster, making a little more power per CFM. Case and point, a 1.8L GSR with a GT35R w/ undivided .82AR T3 housing. 17psi with 93 octane netted ~420whp. Moving the powerband around for a 3.4L motor puts spool at ~3500rpm, and same NA exhaust flow at your 5k vs his 8.4k. Look where he made 420whp, then look where your engine makes the best power... (It also shows that 'small' housing can make 605whp, 2nd link shows 650whp) If anything, you should have just gone with an overall larger turbo like a GT4088R, or even a Borg-Warner turbo. http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewt...hp?f=27&t=4808 http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewt...hp?f=27&t=4656 ATP turbo's pages help lots with info, since they offer so many options & examples: http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT BTW, all the 'n00b' ---- posted is good. Basicly we accept you, but there's still the 90-day probationary period in case you wave teh homo flag or something. :P |
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Good write up, but stop calling a 60mm turbo a huge turbo, it is on the small end of mid sized turbo's, that and 3.4L's on a T3 hotside... :S
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Ya I would have went for at least a 67 MM and T4 1.01 hotside
My 2.2L PIle spools the ---- out of a S cover PT6176 with T4 hotside...... This thing would have absoilutely no problem... Even wiith the gay rev limited top end... |
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Nice work man. I always kinda had a thing for that year of fiero, but it was kinda like the crush I had for the dorky girl in class with the nice tits and and ass. I always wanted to see what it was like, but never wanted my friends to find out.
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Originally Posted by AaronZ34
I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not....So....I'll just keep my mouth shut....
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
I wantede to hate this pile of ---- as I SAW NO ------- POPRN IN THE INTRO... But I really dig the car....
And your cat but there is no Ch33ZeBurg3r in Teh Pan. L4wlZ Now dont be a faggot and post some porn (and none of that gay ----. Welcome, nice ride... Even if it is a gay ass Fiero, it could be worse, I guess.... it could be a Ford... Or an Accord Or a Honda in general....It's not like it's much different from a Honda, just a cheap econobox. Just mine's RWD, and actually looks good :6 Attachment 12585 Attachment 12586 Attachment 12587 Attachment 12588 Attachment 12589 http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/2...6b8d637gs8.jpg
Originally Posted by HiProfile
By small intercooler, I meant the bike rad you refered to earlier as teh heat exhanger. I've never seen a street bike with a particularly large radiator, but I do know of several air-water setups that have large heat exchangers that still lead to heatsoak if you do more than a few pulls at a time. Maybe you don't look at your IAT's much? Anyways, max capacity is different from continuous capacity. For example, a particular bone-stock B16 held 560whp for several dyno pulls and a few track runs, but still blew up later (only making 300whp blown ;)).
As for the divided housings, it would be like a true dual exhaust if you know much about V8's and x-overs and crap. The dirty explaination: Turbos require high manifold pressure, which hurts exhaust scavenging; exhaust pulses can hurt further if the pressure wave hits a valve that's starting to open, or one that's at the overlap point. Dividing the cylinders evenly reduces this considerably, especially with more power/rpm. The way it helps spool the turbo is the reduced pressure needed. Each exhaust pulse has to fill half the volume of piping before it 'acts' upon the turbine wheel. You can either use a single WG (divided all the way to the valve), or two WG's if that makes it simpler. Since there's up to a 3:1 pressure differential between manifold & downpipe/dumppipe, the gases do not revert back into the other half of the divided manifold. You then increase the housing size, which still results in more power AND better response/spool. As for GT knowledge, you are lacking. A GT35 signifies roughly a T3 turbine & CHRA with a T4 compressor. So you're essentially running a T3 turbine wheel in a T4 exhaust housing. Although the housing does play a big role, the role of turbine wheel trumps that. You won't add much HP capacaity with a larger housing when you keep the same turbine wheel. Now for turbo sizing for displacement - 500whp with gasoline with produce roughly the same amount of exhaust gases, wether its on a 2.0L motor or a 4.0L motor. You do generally upsize the turbo on a bigger motor, but that's just due to the smaller cylinders burning the mixture faster, making a little more power per CFM. Case and point, a 1.8L GSR with a GT35R w/ undivided .82AR T3 housing. 17psi with 93 octane netted ~420whp. Moving the powerband around for a 3.4L motor puts spool at ~3500rpm, and same NA exhaust flow at your 5k vs his 8.4k. Look where he made 420whp, then look where your engine makes the best power... (It also shows that 'small' housing can make 605whp, 2nd link shows 650whp) If anything, you should have just gone with an overall larger turbo like a GT4088R, or even a Borg-Warner turbo. http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewt...hp?f=27&t=4808 http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewt...hp?f=27&t=4656 ATP turbo's pages help lots with info, since they offer so many options & examples: http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT BTW, all the 'n00b' ---- posted is good. Basicly we accept you, but there's still the 90-day probationary period in case you wave teh homo flag or something. :P I know my way around a V8 ;) Interesting about the divided housings. I chose the 35 for a reason, and spent a lot of time in compressor maps. At this altitude, it's on the big side of what I need (Which partially explains it not coming on until 3500rpm). I definitely don't want bigger, however don't really want to go smaller either. However using current technology (Split housings, variable vanes, etc), I could probably pick up a bit of power int he midrange. But it wouldn't be worth the added cost of doing it right now. As for the huge numbers that guy's 1.8 is putting down, that's all wonderful and all, but it isn't practical for me. 600rwhp, and I'm pretty sure I'd be chucking rods (Stock short block). Plus, the car is already a handful at 417rwhp. I've driven plenty of 600hp cars, but a 600hp Fiero is different, and it isn't just the weight (It still weighs 2800). Thanks for the info. I stand by that I sized my turbo correctly, and at sea level it'd come on much quicker (All of my flow calcs were done assuming ambient temp/pres). But if I were interested in doing it over now, I thing I would go with a T3 divided housing. I'd actually go with twins, but same idea. Regarding my sexual preferences, see pictures above (Minus the last one).
Originally Posted by dvst8r
Good write up, but stop calling a 60mm turbo a huge turbo, it is on the small end of mid sized turbo's, that and 3.4L's on a T3 hotside... :S
Edit, holy ---- lots was posted in the time i pushed reply.
Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
Ya I would have went for at least a 67 MM and T4 1.01 hotside
My 2.2L PIle spools the ---- out of a S cover PT6176 with T4 hotside...... This thing would have absoilutely no problem... Even wiith the gay rev limited top end... |
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Originally Posted by carkrazed2005
Nice work man. I always kinda had a thing for that year of fiero, but it was kinda like the crush I had for the dorky girl in class with the nice tits and and ass. I always wanted to see what it was like, but never wanted my friends to find out.
Although it has a bad reputation, I've never had more fun driving a car in my life (And I've driven some pimpass cars). Plus, it's not FWD, hooks up like it's AWD, and it's very easy to get it fast.
Originally Posted by crxvtec91
Thats a good thing. I have not seen a better intro post in a while. The same old dirty D-series gets a little old sometimes.
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Did he post that 430whp dyno graph yet?
I dont want to read any of this post, because this kid knows nothing about what he is talking about or doing. He says that turbo cars need a 27% correction factor in colorado. |
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Wicked... please don't wrap it around a tree.
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Solid Noob post. Great build. That thing must be a handful to drive. Got any Vids?
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Originally Posted by HiProfile
One thing about altitude for boosted cars, you actually make out like a bandit because of the decrease in exhaust backpressure. Its like running a 3.5-4" exhaust over a 2.5" exhaust.
And, the OP is a failfag whose tuning ability is lacking. FYI, ability to make a correct n00b intro post complete with porn is directly proportional to ability to tune. $5 says if he posts porn his car won't run like peniswhistle. |
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Originally Posted by darkhorizon
Did he post that 430whp dyno graph yet?
I dont want to read any of this post, because this kid knows nothing about what he is talking about or doing. He says that turbo cars need a 27% correction factor in colorado. https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...110#msg1210110 |
Re: 88 Fiero GT. Engine swap. Custom turbo build.
Originally Posted by darkhorizon
Did he post that 430whp dyno graph yet?
I dont want to read any of this post, because this kid knows nothing about what he is talking about or doing. He says that turbo cars need a 27% correction factor in colorado. This isn't RFT and Hammitt is no where to be found. |
Re: 88 Fiero GT. Engine swap. Custom turbo build.
Originally Posted by darkhorizon
Did he post that 430whp dyno graph yet?
I dont want to read any of this post, because this kid knows nothing about what he is talking about or doing. He says that turbo cars need a 27% correction factor in colorado.
Originally Posted by TorganFM
Wicked... please don't wrap it around a tree.
Originally Posted by CSaddict
Solid Noob post. Great build. That thing must be a handful to drive. Got any Vids?
Idle and freerev: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...rbo_193915.htm 0-75 highway onramp (8.7psi, ---- tune): http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...rbo_193913.htm Dyno vid: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...rbo_194049.htm
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Completely wrong. Ask Tony Palo why his TIP went through the roof when he was in Denver, compared to normal sea level venues. You basically overspin the ---- out of the turbo to flow a given airmass and there's a big frictional loss across it, making it a whole lot less efficient.
And, the OP is a failfag whose tuning ability is lacking. FYI, ability to make a correct n00b intro post complete with porn is directly proportional to ability to tune. $5 says if he posts porn his car won't run like peniswhistle. The reason my tune was ---- isn't because I couldn't tune, it was because I was having a problem with the RPM pickup on my piggyback. That's since been fixed, and my tune is pretty solid right now. And I've already posted a few semi-nude pics! |
Re: 88 Fiero GT. Engine swap. Custom turbo build.
Originally Posted by AaronZ34
Why? So I could lose another 500-1000rpm of spool time? As said above, I don't want, or need, anymore power up top. I'm already at the limit of my short block, and the car is wicked fast as it is. You are grossly mis-informesd... 1. That turbos ex housing is too small for that thing. Period, and going to a T4 housing is NOT going to hurt spool anywhere near as much as you think. 2. You wont lose 1000s of rpms spool yime. 3. Its not ALL about top end power. but Iwont get into that as you obviously are m isinformed and Id rather ---- your mother than try to get you to understand 4. Your car isnt wicked fast... How do I know??? Because mine IS 5. DOnt be a faggot and ---- a halfway good noob post by being a faggot... There are alot of people around here whom built thewre own ---- who have nicer setups and make WAY more impressive numbers By the way, your porn is lacking so is your ------- attirude, your car isnt all that, its neat... But its a ------- Fiero... Your attitude correlates wonderfully. Did I mention its slow???
Originally Posted by Adam Hopkins
Your just pissed because he stole your thunder:
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...110#msg1210110 Oh Jesus ------- CHrist.... another douchebag???? FIgures. Dammit... My noob picker has been off for a hot minute... Guess the first clue should have been it being a Fiero..... oh well, im just a sucker for different...... Next thing hell be telling me His car is faster than mine..... SHiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit |
Re: 88 Fiero GT. Engine swap. Custom turbo build.
Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
You are grossly mis-informesd... 1. That turbos ex housing is too small for that thing. Period, and going to a T4 housing is NOT going to hurt spool anywhere near as much as you think. 2. You wont lose 1000s of rpms spool yime. 3. Its not ALL about top end power. but Iwont get into that as you obviously are m isinformed and Id rather ---- your mother than try to get you to understand 4. Your car isnt wicked fast... How do I know??? Because mine IS 5. DOnt be a faggot and ---- a halfway good noob post by being a faggot... There are alot of people around here whom built thjewre own ---- who have nicer setups and make WAY more impressivef numbers By the way, your porn is lacking so is your ------- attirude, your car isnt all that, its neat... But its a ------- Fiero... Your attitude correlates wonderfully. Did I mention its slow??? 2. You're right, I won't lose any, because I'm not going to do it. 3. So a larger turbine will allow me to gain low end power, and spool time? Aside from the newer styles mentioned above, that's wrong. 4. I don't mean it's wicked fast compared to every other car on the road. I drive plenty faster cars on a regular basis. It's wicked fast for a Fiero. You'd have to drive one to understand. 5. I never said there weren't. I bought a Fiero for a reason. I've got access to plenty of other cars that are "better" in your ignorant eyes. But it isn't about that. It's about what I wanted, and I've got it. The Fiero looks good to me. Just like people here that think their Honda looks good. I don't, but it isn't my car. Next, the Fiero is light. I've got the heaviest one ever made, and it weighed 2800 (Now sitting at about 2500). It's RWD. It hooks up better than AWD cars. I'm 6'4", and I fit comfortably, and easily. I chose the car for a reason, and you can't find me a better car at the same budget. I appreciate your input, and am open to ideas about improving its drivability and turbo response, but so far, you have't offered any constructive input. HiProfile did. |
Re: 88 Fiero GT. Engine swap. Custom turbo build.
Jesus ------- Christ
Well at least you know how to spell you're according to context... Ill give you a cookie for that fior sure. It needs a bigger snail.... IT WONT HURT spool NEARLY as much as you seem to think.... Dispolacement is on your side. What do I know, I drive a four door Accord,,, You dont have to tell me about being different. Ignorant??? You mlake me laugh ------, actually its sad you cant even piss me off. But anyone that thinks (even a mid engfine chassis) hooks up better than an AWD platform is a moron, or whomever they know that has said QWD fails at life (and driving). I could give a ---- what you do with the car. Ive got fags on this site telling me to put my setup in a hatch/civic/teg all the ------- time as I destroy all that is beautiful (trannywisse) In my choice of platform. COntrary to your ------- skewed interpretation... The ignorant one here in this threraad seems tyo be you thus far. Post some ------- porn (Not some Mervynns bathing suit ads) and ull your head out of your boyfriends man -----. |
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