.48/.42 to .48/.60 conversion
#61
Re: .48/.42 to .48/.60 conversion
haha, it starts with guys like me measuring a turbo and saying I don't see a difference. If I would have known I would have to ebattle it out with a turbo goon I would have measured twice and wrote down the numbers.
Everyone watch out for the "Super 70" trend I'm about to start.
Everyone watch out for the "Super 70" trend I'm about to start.
#63
Re: .48/.42 to .48/.60 conversion
Originally Posted by AbaZ
Jesus christ.... lol, Cheapturbo.com/PT supplys Garrett's "Super60" which is 100% a "60 trim" with a 1.830 wheel and yes in a .42AR housing, So its not a true super60 like a turbonetics version.
Originally Posted by AbaZ
And if you dont beleive me, you can go ahead and call them
EDIT: Nobody is arguing that a 50 trim wheel can't go in a .60 A/R housing or that a 60 trim wheel can't go in a .42 A/R housing, but you'd need machining to do so due to the difference in inner diamater wheel size. You can stick a 50 trim wheel in a .60 A/R all day without modifying anything but the backplate but you can't do so with a 60 trim wheel in a .42 A/R housing which would normally contain a 50 or even 45 trim wheel depending on which model you took it from.
#65
Re: .48/.42 to .48/.60 conversion
The 50 trim he's arguing that he believes is no different than a 60 trim is easily distinguished by a 1.06 A/R exhaust housing with a 1.93 minor and 2.56 major on the turbine side giving it a 57 trim turbine. The .42/.63 T3's are going to have a 1.93" minor and 2.56" turbine giving them a 57 trim as well. These will have a 1.59" minor and 2.37" major on the compressor side and will be a 45 trim. The .42/.48 A/R is going to have the same turbine of 1.93" and 2.56" (57) and will have a 1.59" and 2.37" or 45 trim compressor wheel. The 50 trim also has a .42 A/R compressor housing but if you actually measured a 50 trim, your math and measurements suck even worse considering that a 45 trim has an inner of 1.595" and you're claiming you measured a .42/.48 A/R turbo? If so, you measured a 45 trim wheel any way that you slice it. You're now off by .235 or close to 6mm.
So what did you measure?
So what did you measure?
#67
Re: .48/.42 to .48/.60 conversion
Originally Posted by sixsick6
Call someone who is going to call a 60 trim wheel a "Super60" to make a sale to an uninformed consumer like Stealth? No thanks.
What a fucken child.
#68
Re: .48/.42 to .48/.60 conversion
Originally Posted by sixsick6
Honeywell supplies Garrett "Super 60" as Honeywell and Garrett are the same company started by Cliff Garrett in the 30's. The "Super 60" has nothing to do with Turbonetics as the "Super60" wheel is a Garrett product to begin with, hence the reason the 60 trim and "Super60" have different measurements.
Call someone who is going to call a 60 trim wheel a "Super60" to make a sale to an uninformed consumer like Stealth? No thanks.
EDIT: Nobody is arguing that a 50 trim wheel can't go in a .60 A/R housing or that a 60 trim wheel can't go in a .42 A/R housing, but you'd need machining to do so due to the difference in inner diamater wheel size. You can stick a 50 trim wheel in a .60 A/R all day without modifying anything but the backplate but you can't do so with a 60 trim wheel in a .42 A/R housing which would normally contain a 50 or even 45 trim wheel depending on which model you took it from.
Call someone who is going to call a 60 trim wheel a "Super60" to make a sale to an uninformed consumer like Stealth? No thanks.
EDIT: Nobody is arguing that a 50 trim wheel can't go in a .60 A/R housing or that a 60 trim wheel can't go in a .42 A/R housing, but you'd need machining to do so due to the difference in inner diamater wheel size. You can stick a 50 trim wheel in a .60 A/R all day without modifying anything but the backplate but you can't do so with a 60 trim wheel in a .42 A/R housing which would normally contain a 50 or even 45 trim wheel depending on which model you took it from.
#69
Re: .48/.42 to .48/.60 conversion
So I was at Colins house today and my outragous lack of measuring measured them again.
T-Bird 48/60 compressor wheel
Big end: 2.365
Small end: 1.826
Saab 42/48 compressor wheel
Big end 2.366
small end 1.580
The only difference is on the small side of the wheel. Difference = 0.246
So I was wrong in only measuring the big end of the wheel. I'm going to go hang myself for making this mistake and tarnishing my interweb reputation. And the turbo god should also kill himself for spouting his misinformation that the 42/48 is a 50 trim, when it is actually a 45 trim. (shame on you, douchebag)
The important thing is everytime someone wants to do the housing swap, we don't have to go over this again. The housing swap does make a good difference from the standard 42/48, and on HMT, I think that's what matters.
T-Bird 48/60 compressor wheel
Big end: 2.365
Small end: 1.826
Saab 42/48 compressor wheel
Big end 2.366
small end 1.580
The only difference is on the small side of the wheel. Difference = 0.246
So I was wrong in only measuring the big end of the wheel. I'm going to go hang myself for making this mistake and tarnishing my interweb reputation. And the turbo god should also kill himself for spouting his misinformation that the 42/48 is a 50 trim, when it is actually a 45 trim. (shame on you, douchebag)
The important thing is everytime someone wants to do the housing swap, we don't have to go over this again. The housing swap does make a good difference from the standard 42/48, and on HMT, I think that's what matters.