450's maxed out?
#3
Re: 450's maxed out?
It's all about the math baby!!! Don't look at it as psi, but rather hp goals. Also, it depends on your afr and duty cyle.
Here's an example:
1) convert from metric(cc) to standard(lbs):
In your case 450cc/10.5=42.86lb/hr
2) choose you duty cyle and # of cylinders, multiply that product by the inj flow
4(cyclinders) x 0.9(duty cycle @ 90%)=3.6 => 3.6 x 42.86=154.30
3) Divide that by your B.S.F.C.(brake specific fuel consumption). NA car use about .5 pounds of fuel/hp/hr. You're turbo, so you will be slightly higher (unless
you're running extremely lean, or running high octane fuel), around 0.6 - 0.65
154.30 / 0.6 = 257.16 horsepower max @ 90% duty cycle
You can push 450's farther with leaner(.5 bsfc) and a 100% duty cycle(1.0), but that's up to you and what you are willing to risk. I showed all the math to help with the understanding and so people can play around with different injector sizes, duty cycles, and fuel consumption(richer or leaner). If you have a hp goal in mind you can run the formula backwards to get the supporting injector size for that hp. Hope this helps.
-Andy
Here's an example:
1) convert from metric(cc) to standard(lbs):
In your case 450cc/10.5=42.86lb/hr
2) choose you duty cyle and # of cylinders, multiply that product by the inj flow
4(cyclinders) x 0.9(duty cycle @ 90%)=3.6 => 3.6 x 42.86=154.30
3) Divide that by your B.S.F.C.(brake specific fuel consumption). NA car use about .5 pounds of fuel/hp/hr. You're turbo, so you will be slightly higher (unless
you're running extremely lean, or running high octane fuel), around 0.6 - 0.65
154.30 / 0.6 = 257.16 horsepower max @ 90% duty cycle
You can push 450's farther with leaner(.5 bsfc) and a 100% duty cycle(1.0), but that's up to you and what you are willing to risk. I showed all the math to help with the understanding and so people can play around with different injector sizes, duty cycles, and fuel consumption(richer or leaner). If you have a hp goal in mind you can run the formula backwards to get the supporting injector size for that hp. Hope this helps.
-Andy
#6
Re: 450's maxed out?
Originally Posted by adam38654
Im shure you could make it to 300hp/18psi if you had the walbro high flow 225 pump, and you mite have to bump the fuel pressure up a few psi with a fpr.
Just out of curiosity: Do you know how much hp you are making right now? and what is the air/fuel ratio @6k w/ full boost(if you have full at 6k)? Just curious.
-Andy
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