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1badgvr4 01-14-2009 01:23 AM

13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
Im a noob but not some stupid ricer wanting to put a t67 on my d15.I have a couple questions and want to try to keep them in one thread.

#1 How many people have stock d15's in the 13' on a 14b.

#2 Should I use meth injection even tho a 14b and 450's will get me to my goal. More of a safety thing I guess

#3 Which tuning system has the best balance of ease of use/performance.I see alot of people using turbo edit but my friends say to use crome.

#4 What clutch should I get.This is a buget build so post accordingly

#5 What ecu do I have?93 eg8 dx

Considering I can drive worth a damn should my ported hf manfold 14b'ed 4door pull a 13.99.Thanks in advance.

si 1 01-14-2009 01:36 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
#1 Your definitely not the first

#2 what the ---- for

#3 You have obd-1 use crome or ectune

#4 4 puck act unsprung

#5 p06

1badgvr4 01-14-2009 01:41 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
#2 I would use it has a saftey net against detonation/bad tuning ---- like that.Who knows it might make more power.

kitdelsol 01-14-2009 01:45 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
I ran 13.5 on a eg hatch with z6 and t25

1badgvr4 01-14-2009 01:51 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by kitdelsol
I ran 13.5 on a eg hatch with z6 and t25

Ok.what psi, what were you using to tune with, full interior? Also a hatch is much lighter than a 4 door.

solorex 01-14-2009 02:42 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
:7 uber noober

1badgvr4 01-14-2009 03:18 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by solorex
:7 uber noober

Really dude.Im not a Honda guy and just needed some ------ info.This is my daily.Not tryin to swing my e-nuts but I think both of my dsm's would kick the ---- out of anything your driving.

Bone1 01-14-2009 05:00 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
stay NA D15 in a 4 door, 13.9's with a lady driving............

turbo4life 01-14-2009 05:24 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by 1badgvr4
Really dude.Im not a Honda guy and just needed some ------ info.This is my daily.Not tryin to swing my e-nuts but I think both of my dsm's would kick the ---- out of anything your driving.

if so you would not be asking stupid questions even if you know anyting about turbo :1

1badgvr4 01-14-2009 05:35 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by turbo4life
if so you would not be asking stupid questions even if you know anyting about turbo :1

Well ---- I didn't realize all those questions were specific to HONDA'S.I know excactly how to make a DSM fast.Just because two cars are turbocharged doesn't mean a damn thing.Think a little before coming up with a cool ass remark.

demonboy 01-14-2009 06:55 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
14b's are ---- get yourself a garrett t3 63ar/60ar

Emperor 01-14-2009 07:54 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
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Ignoring stickys,search = Fail

owning a dsm = Fail

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D16Y8-Z6 01-14-2009 08:27 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
Your goal is too easy.

kitdelsol 01-14-2009 11:29 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by 1badgvr4
Ok.what psi, what were you using to tune with, full interior? Also a hatch is much lighter than a 4 door.

11 psi, 450 injectors and open dp, hatch full interior and tuned in crome.

jinxy 01-14-2009 12:15 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
The Failvarian is starting to get it :y


Hitchhikkr 01-14-2009 01:03 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by D16Y8-Z6
Your goal is too easy.

+1

Step up to the plate.


Birdley42008 01-14-2009 01:34 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
Any setup can yield any track time, its what you can drive. Track time > HP

1badgvr4 01-14-2009 03:21 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
+1

Step up to the plate.


Once this goal happens ill build motor.102 plus in the 1/4 would be nice.

Hitchhikkr 01-14-2009 05:15 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by 1badgvr4
Once this goal happens ill build motor.102 plus in the 1/4 would be nice.

Pshh. 102mph. I was trapping 93mph in the 1/8th with my heavy ass 16g LS integra daily driver on bald street tires.

Damn near any shitty setup will put you in your goal. Just jump in and do it.

Smith-02 01-15-2009 01:50 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
i cut high 13's in a mechanically stock wrx with no add-on or better parts installed.

if a civic can't trump a wrx, i'd be worried as ----

da_dude 01-15-2009 03:33 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
94 honda civic ex /w abs and all power option ran 13.8 at 97 mph on a t25 @ 9 psi. Was done on an uberdata base map only, untune.

turbocivic6776 01-15-2009 05:43 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
was that on slicks or radials? if not im a ------- terrible driver

monster D 01-15-2009 10:30 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by turbocivic6776
was that on slicks or radials? if not im a ------- terrible driver

still running mid 14s??

turbocivic6776 01-15-2009 01:22 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
no my best was 13.96 at 102

da_dude 01-16-2009 04:35 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by turbocivic6776
was that on slicks or radials? if not im a ------- terrible driver

If you're asking me than it was done on 22x8x15 slicks.

FrodoGT 01-16-2009 05:35 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by 1badgvr4
Im a noob but not some stupid ricer wanting to put a t67 on my d15.I have a couple questions and want to try to keep them in one thread.

#1 How many people have stock d15's in the 13' on a 14b.

#2 Should I use meth injection even tho a 14b and 450's will get me to my goal. More of a safety thing I guess

#3 Which tuning system has the best balance of ease of use/performance.I see alot of people using turbo edit but my friends say to use crome.

#4 What clutch should I get.This is a buget build so post accordingly

#5 What ecu do I have?93 eg8 dx

Considering I can drive worth a damn should my ported hf manfold 14b'ed 4door pull a 13.99.Thanks in advance.

You wont make more than 200~hp on a stock d15 so meth is retarded, and whoever said the 4d is way heavier than a hatch is stupid as well.. its like a 60lb difference.

turbocivic6776 01-16-2009 05:44 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by da_dude
If you're asking me than it was done on 22x8x15 slicks.

ahhh thats the difference then because i was on street tires and could not do any better then a 2.2 60

danz 01-17-2009 02:25 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
13.2 at 106mph with a te04h turbo, smaller than a 14b. street tires, bald, 13-15lbs. stock block ef. 2.1 60ft

turbocivic6776 01-17-2009 06:24 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
Was it gutted out?

Tom-Guy 01-17-2009 11:37 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by 1badgvr4
#2 I would use it has a saftey net against detonation/bad tuning ---- like that.Who knows it might make more power.

Your knock limit on pumpgas is in the 325 whp range and you're going to strap a 240 whp turbo on. Plenty of safety net.

If the tuning is crap then water/meth is going to complicate things. If the tuning isn't crap it's still complicated the setup, and taken money from your wallet. It won't make more power with it.


Glad you aren't a total n00b, you have a basic idea in your head that doesn't suck. But, you are a little down on experience. Read some more of the stickies and search for similar setups, and use this forum to network with some of the finest - if rough around the edges - people you will ever e-meet in your life.

1badgvr4 01-17-2009 10:13 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Your knock limit on pumpgas is in the 325 whp range and you're going to strap a 240 whp turbo on. Plenty of safety net.

If the tuning is crap then water/meth is going to complicate things. If the tuning isn't crap it's still complicated the setup, and taken money from your wallet. It won't make more power with it.


Glad you aren't a total n00b, you have a basic idea in your head that doesn't suck. But, you are a little down on experience. Read some more of the stickies and search for similar setups, and use this forum to network with some of the finest - if rough around the edges - people you will ever e-meet in your life.

Thanks.Got my hf manny and adapter plate in,but I wont start on the civic until I get my clutch disengagement issues on my dsm fixed.Does anybody make a DP for 14b on a civic.

1badgvr4 01-17-2009 10:25 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
This is a budget build, but I don't skimp on things so heres the list
Ported and ceremic coated ht manny
Ported and rebuild 14b turbo 7cm housing
cleaned and balanced dsm 450's with resistor box
spoolin performance ic piping and
AN oil/coolant lines
full 3'' exhaust with dynamax race muffler
Griffin top to bottom flow ic (maybe)
aluminum rad with slim fan
2 stage boost control for the street tires
slicks for the track
act clutch with a street disc cause a puck disc is not going in my DD.
heavily ported z6 intake manifold
rebuilt b series tb
a/c and ps delete
hope this gets me into the 13's.
Watched a full interior z6 t25'd hatch run 15.0's all night last night lol.

Tom-Guy 01-18-2009 02:23 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
It takes about 150 whp for the average Civic to run 13s.

Problem is you have to know how to drive, have the car aligned CORRECTLY, overly lowered or ebay suspension is instant fail, etc. Motor mounts or mount inserts to eliminate drivetrain flex, etc. Its not hard but the chassis has to work for you too, not just the engine.

kitdelsol 01-18-2009 02:44 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
It takes about 150 whp for the average Civic to run 13s.

Problem is you have to know how to drive, have the car aligned CORRECTLY, overly lowered or ebay suspension is instant fail, etc. Motor mounts or mount inserts to eliminate drivetrain flex, etc. Its not hard but the chassis has to work for you too, not just the engine.

^x 1000

Smith-02 01-18-2009 08:18 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
It takes about 150 whp for the average Civic to run 13s.

Problem is you have to know how to drive, have the car aligned CORRECTLY, overly lowered or ebay suspension is instant fail, etc. Motor mounts or mount inserts to eliminate drivetrain flex, etc. Its not hard but the chassis has to work for you too, not just the engine.

example: bdvtec's car.

4x the hp of a 13 second civic. with the weight of a van full of fat bitches behind it

seerex 01-20-2009 08:04 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
LSD clutch or nothing at all.

EG-prince 01-21-2009 09:21 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by demonboy
14b's are ---- get yourself a garrett t3 63ar/60ar

---- you semenboy you ------- cock suck. Retard newbs can't give other newbs advice.

jarebear667 01-21-2009 09:33 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
your list seams solid, make your own downpipe, with your dsms im sure you have something laying around to cut up :y
its not much different then anything else( your dsm's) you tune the same if your on eprom? grab a wideband and go to town.

you on gvr4.org?

1badgvr4 01-23-2009 03:13 AM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 
Yea I use the same username on there to.Oh and to the dsm haters I JUST DROVE MY ---- 500 miles with no problems.Put a trans in it the same day.

Tom-Guy 01-23-2009 11:54 PM

Re: 13's in a stock block full weight 4 door
 

Originally Posted by 1badgvr4
Oh and to the dsm haters I JUST DROVE MY ---- 500 miles with no problems.Put a trans in it the same day.

Since DSM transmissions are known to last 1000 miles us DSM haters aren't impressed by 500 miles. :P


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