welded engine mounts... still need a flex section?
03-18-2006, 09:11 PM
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Re: welded engine mounts... still need a fex section?
Originally Posted by highroller54
unibody cars made from sheet metal and solid engine mounts dont last,most V8 cars have real frames or at least subframes. Get a welder so you can mig up the cracks, I love people that look at race cars for there street car ideas 
Anyways, its my car, why should I have to justify what I do to anyone.
03-18-2006, 11:01 PM
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Re: welded engine mounts... still need a fex section?
i say ---- it, weld them up. Id rather go fast and have vibration then suck, welding them helped with traction and shifting consistancy too, since there is virtually no torque/shift rod movement all around, you can nail shifts easier. Havent you guys ever seen big v8 cars twist their chassis? Most of them are pretty weak, and dont have a full frame either, so they use subframe connectors and roll cages and other reinforcing measures. Most serious drag cars have one hell of a built/reinforced rearend/axle/suspension.
03-18-2006, 11:15 PM
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Re: welded engine mounts... still need a fex section?
thank you! I have 550 lb springs in my car... if anything is gonna crack the chassis, those bastards will, god damn does it corner good :1
wow, I jusat realized Im adouche and misspelled "flex" in the title.
wow, I jusat realized Im adouche and misspelled "flex" in the title.
03-18-2006, 11:21 PM
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Re: welded engine mounts... still need a fex section?
ok im going to answer some questions for you guys here.....
welding up a set of engine mounts like this picture will decrease wheel hop and eliminate motor torque.
i ran my mounts like this for over a year. not one issue ever came of it. the car didn't vibrate to hell liek you all are willing to claim it will. it shacks a bit more on start up but the idle and driving was no different then stock. this was due inpart to a couple reasons.
1. i have 4 motor mounts.
2. i only did my front and rear not my passenger or driver side mounts.
3. not doing the side moutns helps the vibration be defeated.
i ran no flex pipe. my stock style rubber donut hangers where enuf of a flex in the system to combat any vibration or wobble caused by the motor and its acceleration torque. <-- there was almost 0%. if i shook my motor the car would just roll back and forth.
i saw cleaner shifts and less whel hop. even with my car lowered it still liked to hop before i did the mounts. tho its less with the lower. the combination of all these things made the car hook up better and keep teh tranny in one peice longer.
but hey what do i know i drive and escort! <-- ---- you if you think like that!
NEUMAN
welding up a set of engine mounts like this picture will decrease wheel hop and eliminate motor torque.
i ran my mounts like this for over a year. not one issue ever came of it. the car didn't vibrate to hell liek you all are willing to claim it will. it shacks a bit more on start up but the idle and driving was no different then stock. this was due inpart to a couple reasons.
1. i have 4 motor mounts.
2. i only did my front and rear not my passenger or driver side mounts.
3. not doing the side moutns helps the vibration be defeated.
i ran no flex pipe. my stock style rubber donut hangers where enuf of a flex in the system to combat any vibration or wobble caused by the motor and its acceleration torque. <-- there was almost 0%. if i shook my motor the car would just roll back and forth.
i saw cleaner shifts and less whel hop. even with my car lowered it still liked to hop before i did the mounts. tho its less with the lower. the combination of all these things made the car hook up better and keep teh tranny in one peice longer.
but hey what do i know i drive and escort! <-- ---- you if you think like that!
NEUMAN
03-18-2006, 11:34 PM
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Re: welded engine mounts... still need a flex section?
i know, i like my welded mount. Having big movement in your mounts is inviting somthing bad to happen (broken axles etc) my car vibrates noticeably more but welding mounts worked wonders.
03-19-2006, 12:56 AM
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Re: welded engine mounts... still need a fex section?
Originally Posted by IowaTCoupe
1- im not a noob~
2- in a FWD car, the forces of engine torque are leveraged on the motor mounts in a twisting fashion, where as in a RWD car, they would be pressure and lifting force... Heres a quick drawing..
Personnally, i wouldnt weld my motor mounts IMO. (fwd honda)
but if you are, deffinately get a flex section. Remember your hangers will give a little bit too.
2- in a FWD car, the forces of engine torque are leveraged on the motor mounts in a twisting fashion, where as in a RWD car, they would be pressure and lifting force... Heres a quick drawing..
Personnally, i wouldnt weld my motor mounts IMO. (fwd honda)
but if you are, deffinately get a flex section. Remember your hangers will give a little bit too.
03-19-2006, 08:38 AM
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Re: welded engine mounts... still need a fex section?
Originally Posted by neuspeedescort
ok im going to answer some questions for you guys here.....
welding up a set of engine mounts like this picture will decrease wheel hop and eliminate motor torque.
i ran my mounts like this for over a year. not one issue ever came of it. the car didn't vibrate to hell liek you all are willing to claim it will. it shacks a bit more on start up but the idle and driving was no different then stock. this was due inpart to a couple reasons.
1. i have 4 motor mounts.
2. i only did my front and rear not my passenger or driver side mounts.
3. not doing the side moutns helps the vibration be defeated.
i ran no flex pipe. my stock style rubber donut hangers where enuf of a flex in the system to combat any vibration or wobble caused by the motor and its acceleration torque. <-- there was almost 0%. if i shook my motor the car would just roll back and forth.
i saw cleaner shifts and less whel hop. even with my car lowered it still liked to hop before i did the mounts. tho its less with the lower. the combination of all these things made the car hook up better and keep teh tranny in one peice longer.
but hey what do i know i drive and escort! <-- ---- you if you think like that!
NEUMAN
welding up a set of engine mounts like this picture will decrease wheel hop and eliminate motor torque.
i ran my mounts like this for over a year. not one issue ever came of it. the car didn't vibrate to hell liek you all are willing to claim it will. it shacks a bit more on start up but the idle and driving was no different then stock. this was due inpart to a couple reasons.
1. i have 4 motor mounts.
2. i only did my front and rear not my passenger or driver side mounts.
3. not doing the side moutns helps the vibration be defeated.
i ran no flex pipe. my stock style rubber donut hangers where enuf of a flex in the system to combat any vibration or wobble caused by the motor and its acceleration torque. <-- there was almost 0%. if i shook my motor the car would just roll back and forth.
i saw cleaner shifts and less whel hop. even with my car lowered it still liked to hop before i did the mounts. tho its less with the lower. the combination of all these things made the car hook up better and keep teh tranny in one peice longer.
but hey what do i know i drive and escort! <-- ---- you if you think like that!
NEUMAN
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