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Tom-Guy 11-09-2008 11:59 AM

Re: Something Different
 
Yeah, the chinese TIGs have issues; they are prone to breakage and aren't the greatest unit to weld with. That being said if you go slow and double pass your welds they do a nice job, several fab guys on this and other forums have gotten some good mileage out of them.

And, is that a four exit IC/plenum you are building? Sweeeeeet.

Boyko 11-11-2008 12:58 AM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis


And, is that a four exit IC/plenum you are building? Sweeeeeet.

Ya that is what is will be Someday.........................



So with my special welding skills I managed to turn this thin into a hunk of ---- in 3 min.. lol

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1420/pict2213xa9.jpg

Smith-02 11-11-2008 01:01 AM

Re: Something Different
 
hm...

Boyko 11-11-2008 03:45 AM

Re: Something Different
 

So I blew off most of the week end try to weld and make things work.

One think I will say most of what I am doing is a copy in one way or another of other kits for this sled.


So I made some more stacks

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3509/pict2209hx5.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5412/pict2210hf1.jpg

And a thicker plate

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2005/pict2214ib2.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6213/pict2215ov7.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2158/pict2216vl5.jpg

HomeMadeTurboz 11-11-2008 06:42 PM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by J.H.Christ
is a faggot company who builds faggot machines full of faggot fail.

sort of like the vw of sleds.

Now I don't like the french (from canada or france), but I have owned almost 30 sleds now, and other then the fail of the belt on the new 800's I really have to say that BRP builds the best sleds out there.


Back on topic...


That intercooler is hot.

josh19wrc 11-11-2008 08:23 PM

Re: Something Different
 
how are you planning on getting the oil back to the engine? is that a dry sump lube on that engine?

Boyko 11-11-2008 10:18 PM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by josh19wrc
how are you planning on getting the oil back to the engine? is that a dry sump lube on that engine?

It is a dry sump. The turbo I am using needs fricks all for oil going to it so I can use a small 12v magnetic pulse fuel pump to return the oil.

Scott-EP 11-11-2008 10:25 PM

Re: Something Different
 
you canadians use some funny words

onlyflash944 11-11-2008 10:37 PM

Re: Something Different
 
like rectum


sweet build, what are you doing for engine management again?

Wank.a.lot 11-12-2008 01:43 AM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by onlyflash944
like rectum

rectum? it damn near killed him.

cool ---- on the sled.

Boyko 11-12-2008 03:19 AM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by onlyflash944
like rectum


sweet build, what are you doing for engine management again?

We do talk funny eh?

I am going to be using the Rapid Bike III piggy back controller for timing and fuel controll, it is a neet little box.

Got the intercooler done tonight, pretty happy the way it turned out, my welding has gotten better.
I will post some pics latter.

jackfrost1031 11-12-2008 04:57 AM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by Boyko
We do talk funny eh?

I am going to be using the Rapid Bike III piggy back controller for timing and fuel controll, it is a neet little box.

Got the intercooler done tonight, pretty happy the way it turned out, my welding has gotten better.
I will post some pics latter.

I'm curious to see how it turned out. Keep up the good work :y

Boyko 11-13-2008 02:37 AM

Re: Something Different
 
Here are some more pics,

Next I will have to make room for the charge tube, the way it is now the track is hitting it, It is going to take some thinking and some ------ with.

Thanks for support

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6213/pict2215ov7.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2559/pict2217md0.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6165/pict2224pz8.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/628/pict2239jl4.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/610/pict2231no2.jpg


onlyflash944 11-13-2008 08:59 AM

Re: Something Different
 
in theory, the inlet on that intercooler should have been put on the side with the larger volume. no doubt it will work the way it is but, i'm just saying...

this your first time tigging aluminum? welds look pretty good to me

Boyko 11-13-2008 11:10 AM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by onlyflash944
in theory, the inlet on that intercooler should have been put on the side with the larger volume. no doubt it will work the way it is but, i'm just saying...

this your first time tigging aluminum? welds lKOO pretty good to me

I have tigged before, I do not do it enough to be good but it works for me. I just figured out that following with the filler rod makes a smaller neater weld, this was on the last 6 beads I plopped on........lol.

The intake is on the fat side of the tank. I think you are looking at the blow off valve.

CspecRun 11-13-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Something Different
 
I wish I lived somewhere that it would make sense to own a snowmobile...I've never even seen one(in real life). That ---- should be badasss...

86 fiero 11-13-2008 07:04 PM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
you canadians use some funny words

real Canadians call snowmobiles Sleds..

Ski-Doo is a ------ brand name like rollerblade....

Good thing Quebec has some of the skankiest -----s around and gravy cheese fries.. otherwise we would sell it to France

Scott-EP 11-13-2008 07:10 PM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by Lowerit
real Canadians call snowmobiles Sleds..

Ski-Doo is a ------ brand name like rollerblade....

Good thing Quebec has some of the skankiest -----s around and gravy cheese fries.. otherwise we would sell it to France

i was talking about this when i said funny words.


Originally Posted by Boyko
The turbo I am using needs fricks all for oil


decals is funny coming from you canadians too

sorry for the thread jack, i just think the differences are funny even when our countries are connected

onlyflash944 11-13-2008 11:48 PM

Re: Something Different
 
bov it was.

ill be quiet now

Tom-Guy 11-14-2008 04:21 PM

Re: Something Different
 
That setup makes me want to inseminate somebody's mother.

monster D 11-14-2008 06:35 PM

Re: Something Different
 
nice sled to bad here in texas we dont get enough snow to shi a turd on but oh well ---- it i can only stand freezing temps for a few days at a time anywayz

Scott-EP 11-14-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by monster D
nice sled to bad here in texas we dont get enough snow to shi a turd on but oh well ---- it i can only stand freezing temps for a few days at a time anywayz

you could always ride it in a lake

http://www.snowmobile-canada.com/rac...ater-Cross.jpg

EG-prince 11-15-2008 11:00 PM

Re: Something Different
 
The used to do an expo and competition on a pond near my house crossing with their sleds. It was always fun to go and watch a few of the poor bastards sink. Theres something about seeing a grown man whine and cry like a bitch that is deeply satisfying. Definitely cool to see it done though

HomeMadeTurboz 11-18-2008 01:18 AM

Re: Something Different
 
Water cross is lots of fun, if you sink the sled, you pull the pugs, emty the fuel, and drain it and fill it and go again.

oh,

Boyko there is about a foot of snow in ft mac, and it is snowing hard. Didn't look like there was much in Edmonchuck on my way through.

t_cel_t 11-18-2008 08:43 AM

Re: Something Different
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdjI9...eature=related

Boyko 11-21-2008 03:21 AM

Re: Something Different
 
Still no snow so I am not in a hurry yet.

The last time I was in the water I sank....................... 10 feet from the shore. Dried it out pulled it over to start it and hydro locked a cylinder, bent a con rod because of it.

Things have been going slow, I do not like the way my charge tube fit in the tunnel and do not really trust it I think it might crack time will tell.

So I started on my muffler tonight and got it tacked together, So the sound level is one less thing to worry about …………………...lol. It turned out ok and it is not as heavy as I thought it would be. I utilized a divorced waist gate dump pipe and will port the waist gate on the turbo I am told this help spool up and peek power because the exit out of the turbo is more free flowing.


















http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/315/pict2245bu7.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8002/pict2246ji9.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6949/pict2247ax8.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2673/pict2249hx0.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6546/pict2252vw7.jpg


Tom-Guy 11-21-2008 11:22 AM

Re: Something Different
 
How do you tune that? There's not enough exhaust to fit a wideband. Are you going to slip fit something on there, or just read the plugs?

Boyko 11-21-2008 11:52 AM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
How do you tune that? There's not enough exhaust to fit a wideband. Are you going to slip fit something on there, or just read the plugs?

---- Dude, I never even thought of that..................... :o

I will try mounting it in the primary dump pipe, might get some lean reading, I hate to stick the sensor before the turbo but I might have to :7.

What is up with the K and O anyways?

Tom-Guy 11-21-2008 11:56 AM

Re: Something Different
 
Before the turbo will overheat the sensor and it won't read correctly.

I'd make a slip fit extension pipe for the wideband. The idle readings might not be perfect due to the tiny gaps around the wastegate port shroud, but once it gets flowing it should work fine.

Boyko 11-21-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Before the turbo will overheat the sensor and it won't read correctly.

I'd make a slip fit extension pipe for the wideband. The idle readings might not be perfect due to the tiny gaps around the wastegate port shroud, but once it gets flowing it should work fine.

Thanks guy I try that if I get some jumpy readings. It is a 4cly and revs at 10200 so when it is wacked out it might be o.k, we will find out though.

Tom-Guy 11-21-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Something Different
 
I'M NOT YOUR GUY, BUDDY!


zc

Scott-EP 11-21-2008 08:41 PM

Re: Something Different
 
flanges and pipe are cheap. i would just make another one that is like 2' long for tuning

Boyko 01-06-2009 05:05 AM

Re: Something Different
 
I have been dragging my ass on this, it is getting close.

I tossed a longer track under this thing, went from a 121 with a 1 1/4 lug to a 153, 2 1/4


Here is the pump I am using to return the oil from the turbo

The can is for size referance

Never drink and weld........................................... in the bath tub

Cheers

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/1...ict2306ci7.jpg




I added a hunk of tunnel from a Polaris I had laying around

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6...ict2317uq9.jpg



I made up a extra heat exchanger out of some left over parts and looped it into the turbos water jacket.................. my welding still sucks ----, I do not spend enough time fitting and prepping.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8...ict2316ug9.jpg




I made some tunnel braces out of 1/4 al plate, it took a long time to mill them out and it really sucked sitting in front of a mill for 9 hours with a sunday hangover

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9...ict2314qz1.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9...ict2318wd2.jpg




Here is the piggy back controller for the efi it has good size 3d tables in it and will add or subtract fuel and timing with boost referance. It can switch maps on the fly and can studder the engine for a holshot which is good because the turbo is a long ways from the pistons on this thing.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3...ict2313op1.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9...ict2315dn3.jpg


Still lots to do but should be on the seat soon

Cheers

Scott-EP 01-06-2009 08:57 AM

Re: Something Different
 
good stuff. i was wondering about this the other day

BigBird 01-06-2009 02:45 PM

Re: Something Different
 
awesome tunnel brace it looks tits. can't wait for some vids of this thing there is tons of snow now.

98ctr 01-07-2009 08:02 AM

Re: Something Different
 
looks good.

we were going to put a trubo on my buddys quad, but instead we opted for a gsxr 1000, with a extended frame and extended rear swing arm.


HomeMadeTurboz 01-07-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Something Different
 
I know that there is enough snow in the edmonton area to ride now, just barley, but enough for vids none the less O0

Boyko 02-03-2009 03:20 AM

Re: Something Different
 
So I was roughing in the tuneup on the low buck Attack, had it on a track stand and was getting it in to boost. Lots of stuff to watch, it looked like low 12s on the air fuel and around 12 psi boost at 10,000 rpm which all sound pretty and nice. I fired it up the next day and it ran like crap and had a ticking sound from the top end. Pulled the plugs and did a comp test and # 3 was dead, nothing there.

I just got the head off and it dropped a Ex valve but looks like the valve locked in the gide and did not bang things up to much at all.

I am missing a stem lock....WTF, the shim and the other stem lock were sitting under the lifter cap,

This thing has got 1200 km on it and was wrote off not that being wrote off would cause it to lose a stem lock.

I will look again for the missing part but why would this happen? Did Yammy send the motor out a little light?

Should I just toss a new valve in it and run it? I will take some measurements from the deck to the piston to see if it is crunched up.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9...ict2325rb7.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1...ict2323jq9.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4...ict2332bz2.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6...ict2334oi6.jpg

t_cel_t 02-03-2009 04:42 AM

Re: Something Different
 
damn 5 valve

with the stem bent that bad it might have fucked the guide

Tom-Guy 02-03-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Something Different
 

Originally Posted by t_cel_t
with the stem bent that bad it might have fucked the guide

+1

There's a really good chance the bottom end is fine, but I'd check it all the same. Also, is it just me or is the valve relief on the piston where the valve dropped a little chipped?

Uhm, is there anyway to loosen the valve lash on the exhaust side? I ask because that looks like a solid special-order bucket and not a shim under bucket design, which is common on something that spins to the moon like that. Bottom line the exhaust valves bear the brunt of the thermal load in the engine and the valve lash can go away real quick, you might want to see if a machinist can grind 0.002-0.003" off those suckers so the valve has room to expand into. Keep in mind I could be completely wrong, so inspect your valvetrain closely for signs of wear/scuffing on the base circle, etc.


Otherwise, good job. Every new setup has teething problems as shitty as this, and the total package is badass. Fix her and get us vids!


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