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01-27-2007, 08:14 PM

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Re: Signed Up For Welding Classes....I Be Fabbin'

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Originally Posted by Engloid

I wonder what codes you guys have these certs in.

There's not much sense in testing in all the fillet weld positions when you can take one or two and be qualified for them all. The same goes for pipe. Why bother with 2G, and all the others when you can take the 6G and it covers them all?

Also.... what code is it that allows you to take one test and qualify for unlimited diameters (2" and up)?

ask bigwheeze he probibly knows

01-27-2007, 08:40 PM

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Re: Signed Up For Welding Classes....I Be Fabbin'

Engloid - I just do what the ---- I'm told by the guy that teaches the class.
Who is the only person on the planet that has an opinion that matters at the moment, cause his *** is the one that can fail me. hahahahahaha U know how that stuff goes!

Our class is extremely nice. About 30 people, but the shop is huge & loaded with a wide array of equipment.

01-28-2007, 07:56 AM

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Re: Signed Up For Welding Classes....I Be Fabbin'

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Be careful....cause a lot of the welding schools make a business out of selling cerrifications that you don't need. Some will want you to PAY for certifications in all positions, when you don't actually need them. They also will want you to PAY for oxy-acetylene certs that will be virtually useless in your future. Not only that, but the certs you get in school are, at best, probably AWS certs. AWS certs are typically not enough to get you a good job anyway. Sure, a few look good on a beginner's resume, but most places (not junkyard jobs) that do work that requires certs other than AWS.

I would reccomend that you ask your teacher what codes that you're welding to. It's all part of learning, so don't think you're going to tick the guy off. You need to know this stuff, even more than you need to know what 6010 stands for. If he tells you it's AWS or ASME, and then wants you to pay for certs in all positions, ask him why you can't just take the 6g pipe that qualifies you for all positions. It's a fair question to ask him.

01-28-2007, 10:46 AM

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Re: Signed Up For Welding Classes....I Be Fabbin'

I don't pay anything, the state does. It's not a welding school. It's a state run 2 year community college.

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Welding Technology offers a guide to skills and knowledge in the safe operation of the following: oxyacetylene flame cutting; plasma cutting; welding and brazing equipment; electric arc welding equipment for shielded metal arc, gas metal arc, flux-core arc welding, and gas Tungsten arc welding equipment. Safety and performance are foremost and are stressed throughout the program. All position welding is included, with a major emphasis on out-of-position welding and performance testing. Also included in referenced texts as related instruction are electrode classification, chemical and physical structure of metals, joint design, methods of testing, welding procedures, welder qualifications, welding codes and specifications, blueprint reading, and basic layout. Passage of The American Welding Society Test is required for graduation.

I know I paid a pretty penny for several NCCER books.

01-28-2007, 11:38 AM

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I don't pay anything, the state does. It's not a welding school. It's a state run 2 year community college.

sounds like welfare to work to me

01-28-2007, 06:48 PM

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Re: Signed Up For Welding Classes....I Be Fabbin'

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Pipe is 4"+ Dia.
There is I think 5 diffrent AWS certs
G3 - You're certified for flat, horizontal, and vertical you are limited to a shop. You cannot weld at place of final install.
G4 - You're certified for flat, horizontal, vertical, and overhead. You can weld at place of final install.
If you test for a G4 you are certified for all positon (FHVO) plate and pipe over 2' dia.
TIG - 1/8" to 3/4" plate groove and fillet welds.
FCAW-S - 1/8" and over plate groove and fillet welds.
FCAW-G - 1/8" and over plate groove and fillet welds.
SMAW - 1/8" and over plater groove and fillet welds.

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QC7-93, Standard for AWS Certified Welders
QC7-93, Supplement C, Welder Performance Qualification Sheet Metal Test Requirements
QC7-93, Supplement F, Chemical Plant and Petroleum Refinery Piping
QC7-93, Supplement G, AWS Performance Qualification Test (generic supplement)
Accredited Test Facilities For AWS Welders Certification
Domestic
International
Maintenance of AWS National Welder Certification
Certified Welder Application with Guide to Interpreting Abbreviations on Certified Welder Card