hotrex

dude, its a log manifold. its retarded cheap. what are seriously expecting?

SpankedYA!

These KIDS have no money and want a turbo and keep A/C. Their idea of expensive is $200. This will be more than adequate and will let these fairies keep the A/C.

Tom-Guy

Dunno, I wasn't at the dyno when Wes was cranking on the boost controller, but boost cut is set at 22 psi, so he can be nice n safe n stuff n things.

Turbo is an eGay Super T70. It's mis-sized, too big and laggy, no boost until 4500-4800 rpms. Engine revs to 9300. Very peaky, if the gearbox were in better repair allowing better shifting, it would be a bit better to drive.

I'm not arguing flow or anything, just expediency. ***** and brains get you further than budget. I prefer the merge collector items, myself, but if baby jesus give us logs we try to make as much goddamn power with them as we can.

Jcushing

im not gonna argue anythig either other than that HP/psi is as important as you make it. on the average stock block turbo setup, the HP limit is the breaking point of the motor not boost pressure so it is ok to say just turn up the boost to make more power. However a turbo only flows so much air per psi (ie from the compressor map) and the amount of power you make from that air is important when you start pushing the limits more. its kinda like saying yeah you have a stock crx HF exhaust but just turn the boost up to make up for it.

now a log is what it is. saying a log manifold flows bad is like calling a retard stupid. its there just to get a turbo on your car, save space, not cost alot, and be relatively indestructable. if your thinking your gonna get alot of flow out of a log your fooling yourself. now you want A/C AND a turbo AND a inexpensive maniold. its obvious your gonna have to sacrafice something and its gonna be flow.

to the poster for makin a A/C compatible mani
to anyone hating on the manifold
to using the FAB forum as a classified section

Tom-Guy

Strange, most of the bigger powwr compressors are at a greater than 45 degree upward tilt - meaning maxxing hp per psi will run you off the map quicker than cranking the hell out of the boost.

I mean, just look at everything not-Honduh, like the guys who design turbochargers do.

Jcushing

thats because they are designed to run at higher pressure ratios

fork

The point of a log manifold is to be cheap, not good. HMT was founded by using manifolds that were designed for motors that made like 75 hp. If you don't like it get the ---- out

myshtern

My HF mani will outflow that log by 2x.

Problem with the log is that you lose all the ------- heat to those tight *** bends. He's right, logs flows like my ------- after mexican food - shitty.

sgoertz

Please explain how the hf manifold with its ports barely able to fit your pinky finger will be able to out flow a log.... Last time I checked there is no "collector" on the hf manifold, it just intrudes all exhaust gasses to a big hole, sounds pretty simular to a log to me....
-James

sgoertz

Also when you say this ac long will produce less power over the non ac,
The only real power you will be losing is from having the ac on the car, not from the turbo flange being kicked at an angle, by having the flange kicked at an angle you are talking about a whopping 2% less power, at 400whp 2% is 8hp, note this is turbo you can easily compesate for the small losses with one more turn of the boost controller
-James