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Old 01-07-2006, 10:58 PM
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my opinion is the cracking is in the wrong location for it to have cracked, not to mention the cracks are lifted and the pattern of the crack indicates it was caused from a upward forceful motion.

theres also zero traces of carbon, as i zoomed in to about 800 percent on photoshop and saw nothing.

there is no way to not notice these cracks while driving, they are so large and ------ aprt your turbo would not even spool.

i say he jacked up the engine by the manifold ad broked it, and now hes fishing for a new one.
Your are a bonehead and I will have a demonstration as to what happend at the BF welding class in the morning.
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Old 01-07-2006, 10:59 PM
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there is no way to not notice these cracks while driving, they are so large and ------ aprt your turbo would not even spool.
The cracks are all under the manifold, You can hardly see them from the top. Before I took the engine out three days ago I went for a couple rippers by the farm, 0-120 runs 10psi from 3 grand to redline bitch, no half throttle hotrex ----, no spool up problems.

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i say he jacked up the engine by the manifold ad broked it, and now hes fishing for a new one.
Your a ------- idiot. Thank god I didnt buy a manifold from you.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:03 PM
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my guess is that in the car his motor mounts are shot allowing the turbo to rock forward and rest on/hit the front beam and stressing that area etc.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:04 PM
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Come on by in the morning and I will do a demonstration of what happened.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:07 PM
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This is a good thing,because we can get a group for some impartial testing in the morning.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:11 PM
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my guess is that in the car his motor mounts are shot allowing the turbo to rock forward and rest on/hit the front beam and stressing that area etc.
Poly motor mount inserts, you can see them in the engine bay pic.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:31 PM
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My laser guy is cutting a bunch of flanges for me for the big yahoo tomorrow.he is also going to cut a few peices of the same size material so we can weld the ends togher and heat them up with the torch.You will then be able to see what happens when your stainless steel manifold gets hot.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:39 PM
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I love torture tests.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Need opinions on problem. Had a manifold crack but really strange.

a lot of people sometimes forget to add a brace from the downpipe to the block, which results in massive stress to the manifold, having all the weight of the turbo ,downpipe,charge pipes and the whole exhaust system rocking back and forth on the manifold. every time you hit the gas/ change gears, the manifold gets impacted if there is no support from the downpipe to the block.

I don't know if this is the case here, but believe it or not, a lot of people dont think a support bracket between the downpipe and engine block is necessary.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:51 PM
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I don't think it's neccesary. Many don't use them, and if the stainless is the problem, than it shouldn't be used. A brace from the DP to the block will rock in the exact motion as a manifold/turbo/DP with no brace. You could probably take some of the weight off of it, but what exactly is the problem here? Is it the manifold, the material, or the weight?
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