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This was done with my miller syncrowave 180sd
settings were:

.045 308l filler rod
3/32nd 2% thoricated tungsten
17 series torch
#8 gas lens
20 cfh flow, 15cfh purge flow
60 amps

Material is 1.75" 304 stainless 16 gauge, the same stuff I am building my new tubulars out of (top mount, sidewinder)

http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03358.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03359.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03360.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03361.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03362.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03363.JPG
http://jg-fab.com/weld-pictures/DSC03364.JPG

-James

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Get over yourself. This isn't honda-tech.

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i don't understand the last comment... .if you were asking an honest opinion i would say they're pretty good, but if you were doing that just to brag, then i agree...."Get over yourself!"

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<---trend setter. >:D

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actually i am still not happy as they are not burnsstainless yet....
if engloid was on here he could give some real advise as to how to get the perfect band of gold they get but i guess all yall think about is how to cut people down so poo on you ;)
-James

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Ok OK. James, how did you do it? Did Jesus teach you to weld? How much would it be to autograph my wang? ;D

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The only thing I know to look for is a stack of dimes.

Meaning the weld should look like a stack of dimes overlapping each other.

In that area you get an A. I've seen better, but that is impressive.

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Alot better than me...Good penatration(no jokes), but if I had to give some construtive critisizm* the bead could be a little tighter and a little more consistansy* in the size but that just for looks of course.

Edit: It's late and my spelling sux.

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James, you need to go to the "Smiley Hotrex school of Welding"


If you're not plugging into your mothers dryer, you just aren't doing it right. :y

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Looks like your welding sober, you def need to drink a six pack of PBR before your touch the welder :6 t

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you need to add more rod, looks like you just fused it

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more cosistent(seamless) and thinner bead. it looks like there is some undercut too. horrible no j/k its pretty damn good but if you want closer to perfect brush up

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actually it isnt undercut at all, I measured a corss section of an idential piece to this one and it was 1/32nd on top and 1/32nd on the buttom of the weld making the entire weld 1/8" thick (the same thickness of schedule 10 1.5" pipe) that is if you add 1/32 + 1/32 + 1/16 (thickness of matieral)
-James

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Tomarrow I will be playing with differnt torch movements to clean up the weld profile a bit, note I have only been tig welding for almost 2 years now so dont expect engloid (20+ years exp) out of me ;)
In this picture I was using a "stitch" patter, tomarrow I will try pulsing/pump the pedal, and a back and forth method that was recommend to me by RMF Headers.

-James

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yup thats it right there, bingo. 75 feet or extension cord madness ------

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again this is how i roll. excellent advice, my welder doesnt have a pedal, when i feel im gettin too hot i splash some shlitz on the bea to cool it the ---- off and produce gold ------

observe.
Attachment 36655



quick rate my poo......

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oh and btw james, top two pics def show some undercutting.

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Having never tig welded before, I read all this ---- and ask myself how much of this technical babble really relates to wether the weld will ever break or not, or if it's like being basketball players comparing who's rims are bigger.


Thank you. :)

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thats what it is steve, ------ ont care about the strength they want jdm coloring.

its like negros only eatin chicken if its got dems seasnons,.

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I'm going to start casting my own manfolds in the garage. People are going to think I'm smart as ----. :6

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yes steve, sand cast your own ramhoens in the garage, 75 lbs of domestic fury.

itll be jdm i promise.

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BMC has always cared sooooooooo ------- much on what the welds looks like

JUST SELL UR MANIFOLD DUDE, who gives a ---- what they look like

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Unless you are some guy at home doing this for the first time, just save it.

Noone cares how clean your 10,000th weld is. Go to H-T to get your dick sucked.

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James,

I think your welds are awesome. Don't let these guys get to you. You take pride in your work and that is a commitment to a certain minimum standard and that shows in your products. Keep up the good work.

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well also remember there is a fab forum, :P

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Attachment 36643

seems to be alot of camras that add flaws ::) :y

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Noone is cutting down his skills. Just that he want's to be graded by the masses.

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I weld better than that with my flux mig. imagine what I could do with that welder.








jk. ;D

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To anybody that truely believes this piece has undercutting, send me $5 via paypal and I will flat rate ship this piece to them....

As to why I care so much about the way my product looks:
I am making this my long term career.
I want to be the best some day (I know it will never happen but gotta have dreams right ;))
Most of my customers aren't from hmt and believe the better it looks the better it performs and are more willing to pay for it than something that costs 1/2 as much, preforms just as good, that is mig welded....
I truely love welding as long as customers arn't screaming down my back so therefore I am striving to be the best.
I am a pefectionest, I am not happy untill it is perfect.

-James

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Knowing what you know about this site and our fabrication "norm", what kind of grade were you thinking you were going to get, and who do you think was going to give you this grade?

I haven't seen tig welds that good on this site ever, and neither have you, so who were you expecting to grade your welds? ???

You hear me knockin'? :6

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Hey stealthmod, quite being such a critical -------.

James, by stitch, you mean a left - right weaving motion right?
Lately i've been doing a pulsing method, only instead of pulsing the pedal, I lift and drop the torch.
How did that back and forth method work out? I know the RMF header guy is full of ---- on a lot of stuff.

- Alex

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Yes sir a left to right motion is my normal stitch method. I havent had a chance to give the back and forth method a try yet.

Engloid has posted on here and if he could chime in I might be able to get something better.
Even if not, I try and keep people informed of how I am doing, I mean hmt helped us in a big way
so why not try and help back. I will give welding tips to anybody that asks even sometimes without
asking, (right hotrex ;))
Overall I am trying to remain a pretty cool guy that stays somewhere on someones friend list,
it isnt like I have gone off and made millions at making log manifolds ::) I am just trying to say
I am a normal person like the rest of yall.

If my prices ever seem high, and you feel like actually talking to me I always try and help out the underdog.
I dont have cut throat prices like some companies, I try and stay within the reach of the adverage joe.
I have gotten now where I put alot of time into my products really, I am really trying to stand behind them
if you pay $300 shipped for a log you will get $300 worth of work (ports match flawlessly now, welds that wont
ever go anywhere, something that looks pretty good, and some one that will back the product up if anything ever
happens) I really cant afford to drop the price on my stuff commercially but if you can get me on aim, phone,
etc I can work a deal no problem.

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O well I guess it is in stealthmodes nature to rag on me afterall, he was
the first one that pointed out my pvc charge pipes when I first got started
;)

(long story short for the new guys:
When we were first geting started my first turbo car
93 civic ex coupe d16z6 turbo, we built a cnc machine adapter plate
for the hf to ihi rhb5 turbo, we had no welder and no idea on how to weld
so we did the most ghetto rigged setup hmt has ever seen with a set of
pvc charge pipes and aluminum foil, b&m fuel pressure regulator for
fuel management set at 65psi static pressure, and no intercooler)

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PVC charge pipes have always been off the hook.


I don't have an agenda to dislike you or what you make. I was just wondering where the logic was with this post. Your welds look great, and I haven't seen better on this site. That's why I was asking who you wanted to grade your welds. I've seen Engloid over on HT more than I've seen him here.

It doesn't have anything to do with what you make, your prices, wether you help the underdog or not. Just asking.

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Dude forget about it. I like seeing other people's welds so that I have something to compare to. Even if he is just showing off, it strikes relevant conversation. Engloid got banned from HT btw.

James, so have you ever tried the up and down motion like a pulse?

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The only pulse I have ever done was pump the pedal and that is on my thick schedule 40 stuff
This log http://bmcrace.com/products/manifolds/log/goldlog1.jpg
http://bmcrace.com/products/manifolds/log/goldlog2.jpg
Was done with pumping the pedal, I used 3/32nd filler rod here 180 amps at the pipe to flange and at wastegate elbo and 150 amps at 90 to T.

-James

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When I am building manifolds again monday I will give your move the torch up and down a try, do you move it away form the work and closer to the work or do you do it by changing the weld angle from the 15 degrees to say 45 and back?
-James

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Well, I havent praciticed it too much, but I wanted to get a straight up and down action going. Often though, I found myself almost at a 45 degree angle. I would just wait until I got the puddle and immediately move back for it to cool, then progress forward. Then I would slip into what you are talking about where I would just change the angle of the torch. I only did this on mild steel so on stainless it could very well be different, but my problem was that by changing the angle, the torch would pre-heat the area in front of it. So by the time I got there, the steel was too hot and it would puddle almost instantly.

Attached is a diagram of what I am talking about.

Do you not bevel your steel forcing you to weld at such high amperage levels?
You backpurge, right? Can you give me some details on that?
Where are you located?

edit - why dont one of you lazy ass mods move this into the fabrication forum?

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The only thing I see potentialy bad about what you are doing by picking the torch up and down could really only be seen on stainless as ms will always have the grey weld even if it has color it will only have color for 5 minutes then it goes grey, but with that I have noticed if I have my torch to far away from the work the arch isn't good and concentrated and ends up heating up an area as a hole (very simular to changing angle where it preheats).

On thick schedule 40 I bevel my parts at aprox 30-45 degrees and leave a 1/32nd land, for the thin 16 guage I havent done any beveling at all as it is so thin to begin with I am worried of blowing holes if I do bevel.
On thick parts that I don't wish to get a bead on the inside because of it being massive overkill (log manifolds, pipe tubulars) I dont purge as it is a big waste of money and to get 100% penetration on massively thick schedule 40 you get the hoz so big that you weaken everywhere around the weld by a good deal and it is now pointless to have purged to begin with (note I dont gap either so this is a big reason it takes so much heat for me to get 100% penetration)

on my thin tubulars a I always purge as I can move fast and keep the hoz to a minimum (in this pic it is big but most of the time it is usually no more than 1/8" from the weld) and I always get 100% on the 16 gauge stuff.

There are many sure fire ways to get a perfect gold color whenever you are done with your work, one way which I have found works all the time but is pretty ghetto is while the bead is hot take a brass wire brush and brush the weld, the bronze melts at such a low point that it will adhear to the bead and have bronze look now, I only did this once by accident as I was cleaning the material I was about to weld and the weld behind it had the hole part heated up enoguh, I had accidently grabbed the brass brush instead of the stainless brush.

-James

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hey james, ive been fuckign around with some of the things you told me, im now coming out with this...

Attachment 36642

im seeing improvement everyday, is my 3/32 tungsten holding me back? i notice lots of ------ are using 1/16. i use 1/16 filler rod btw.

that weld was at 90 amps with a 18cfm gasflow. and 1/4 hanging out of a number 5 cup.