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Old 10-29-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wannabe
So I've been working at my new job for about 2 months now, and I finally laid down a weld today I'm pretty satisfied with...
Welded on 7/8" thick steel(beveled of course) w/ .045 wire, 28.7 volts/415 wire speed. This is the root pass, and then a dual-feed ac-dc robotic Sub-Arc machine over it.

edit: I weld these things for DMI Industries in West Fargo, ND.
Joel, who the hell typed that for you?? That sounds unnaturally intelligent for you....lol...i want to wear the grinding mask again
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Joel, who the hell typed that for you?? That sounds unnaturally intelligent for you....lol...i want to wear the grinding mask again
Lawl at Adam in my AdFlow SpeedGlas Grinding helmet in the Tintmasters Parking lot, running across main playing space man...
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by weiRtech
unions are for old lazy asses. that is what is killing the domestic auto industry in north america.
Unions are also for hardworking people that work for companies that won't treat them fairly unless a union exists. They do have a place in this world. The sad part is when unions get so powerful that the members abuse the power and take advantage of the company...then bitch about the companies sending work overseas.

If it weren't for unions, we would not get overtime pay, paid holidays, paid vacations, medical leave time, etc.

As for the weld...it's pretty consistent, which shows you have some ability. The settings could be improved on. It looks like you welded it too hot and fast. You have a lot of undercut on it. It may be fine though, since it gets a sub-arc weld on to of it that should take care of that. If it were finish work, I'd reccomend trying slower speed, and maybe less heat.

Is that the work supposed to be done to AWS D1.1 Structural Welding Code? If so, don't they say you need to clean off millscale? Either way, cleaning if off will make the welding go a lot better and reduce the tendency to undercut.

Some other advice for you:
Although you may like this job, I suspect that it will not have a lot of challenges for you in the future. Don't be afraid to leave it for a place that you can learn more different things. Don't max out your spending habits, because you may need to take a small (initial) pay cut, in order to advance into a field of welding that will have a much greater potential. Also, ALWAYS give a company the option to have you work out a notice. If you give them the option, many will not ask you to work out long. That lets you leave fast, but on good terms. Walking out just pisses people off and can hurt your opportunities in the future.
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Engloid
Unions are also for hardworking people that work for companies that won't treat them fairly unless a union exists. They do have a place in this world. The sad part is when unions get so powerful that the members abuse the power and take advantage of the company...then bitch about the companies sending work overseas.

If it weren't for unions, we would not get overtime pay, paid holidays, paid vacations, medical leave time, etc.

As for the weld...it's pretty consistent, which shows you have some ability. The settings could be improved on. It looks like you welded it too hot and fast. You have a lot of undercut on it. It may be fine though, since it gets a sub-arc weld on to of it that should take care of that. If it were finish work, I'd reccomend trying slower speed, and maybe less heat.

Is that the work supposed to be done to AWS D1.1 Structural Welding Code? If so, don't they say you need to clean off millscale? Either way, cleaning if off will make the welding go a lot better and reduce the tendency to undercut.

Some other advice for you:
Although you may like this job, I suspect that it will not have a lot of challenges for you in the future. Don't be afraid to leave it for a place that you can learn more different things. Don't max out your spending habits, because you may need to take a small (initial) pay cut, in order to advance into a field of welding that will have a much greater potential. Also, ALWAYS give a company the option to have you work out a notice. If you give them the option, many will not ask you to work out long. That lets you leave fast, but on good terms. Walking out just pisses people off and can hurt your opportunities in the future.
I get as much paid overtime as I want, a weekend differential, 2 weeks of PTO/yr and plenty of other perks, and my company is not unionized.

As for the millscale, they are run through a wheelbrator, and besides, we deal with Canadian codes, as 99 percent of out towers go to Canada.

Also, All of our coverpasses are made by AC/DC dual feed sub Arc machines, and all imperfections are blended and welded in a section called "Clip and Clean", thats what I started out in, aka Bitch work. The long seam sub arc operators told me that is a perfedct weld for filling in as it was so flat, and that exactly how they want me to keep doing it.
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Originally Posted by wannabe
I get as much paid overtime as I want, a weekend differential, 2 weeks of PTO/yr and plenty of other perks, and my company is not unionized.
Unions are the ones that fought legislation to FORCE companies to pay overtime and provide insurance and other benefits. If it weren't for unions, it would be legal for your company to work you all the overtime they wanted to...without any extra pay or benefits.
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As for the millscale, they are run through a wheelbrator, and besides, we deal with Canadian codes, as 99 percent of out towers go to Canada.
what is a wheelbrator? Does this Canadian code allow you to weld over millscale?

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Also, All of our coverpasses are made by AC/DC dual feed sub Arc machines, and all imperfections are blended and welded in a section called "Clip and Clean", thats what I started out in, aka Bitch work. The long seam sub arc operators told me that is a perfedct weld for filling in as it was so flat, and that exactly how they want me to keep doing it.
You can make a flat weld without undercut. ...not that it's all that important in this application though, since it gets covered up.
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Unions=good for all

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Originally Posted by iceracercrx
Unions=good for all

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they have a place but they should be limited. imo they are verry out of date. the standards for working have been set and by many companies excedded. unions atleast with what i have experienced benifit those in it and do not take in to consideration the jobs they will be loosing in twenty years when all of it is sent over seas. they also dont consider the strain it puts on the business as well as how they efect price of goods and the productivity of a job.

i find them in modern day to hinder much more then they do help. again if you are in a union and disagree than you are proving my point

sry for the rant.
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Originally Posted by Engloid
Unions are the ones that fought legislation to FORCE companies to pay overtime and provide insurance and other benefits. If it weren't for unions, it would be legal for your company to work you all the overtime they wanted to...without any extra pay or benefits.what is a wheelbrator? Does this Canadian code allow you to weld over millscale?
You can make a flat weld without undercut. ...not that it's all that important in this application though, since it gets covered up.
No idea about the canadian code, a wheelbrator is pretty much a big bead blaster.

No one fought for the company I am employed at to pay overtime, and giveme benefits. Here in the midwest, we are in such demand for welders, thats really there only choice... BTW, Other benefits I get include 250 dollars for work clothes(gift certificate to a local tool/clothing shop, so it doesnt get taxed), profit sharing(I should reviece 1300 dollars or so this year and i've only been there for 2 months so far...), and a 1000 dollar sign on bonus.
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