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xX98CivicCpeXx 10-20-2006 09:37 AM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
think I'm gonna go with the VAFC with a bit of dizzy retardation. Anyone ahve this setup?

Loserkidwac 10-20-2006 10:38 AM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
Most people here won't agree but honestly for low boost the vafc/safc, greddy blue box thing or even a FMU would be fine....but if you plan on making a good amount of power or turning up the boost....get a good system

reactone 10-20-2006 02:34 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
Originally Posted by Loserkidwac
Most people here won't agree but honestly for low boost the vafc/safc, greddy blue box thing or even a FMU would be fine....but if you plan on making a good amount of power or turning up the boost....get a good system
Wouldn't he have to at least go for the Vafc/Safc with those 450's?

0b00st0 10-20-2006 04:43 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 

450's don't work to well with the VAFC. You need to have a 3 BAR MAP too.

The VAFC won't be able to take out enough pulse to idle the 450's on the stock MAP sensor.

TiCaL 10-20-2006 05:01 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
Originally Posted by MADMAX
450's don't work to well with the VAFC. You need to have a 3 BAR MAP too.

The VAFC won't be able to take out enough pulse to idle the 450's on the stock MAP sensor.

i disagree!! 450's with an afc should idle fine w/o a bigger map sensor....mine did with no problems and most people that have ran the afc should say the same. you dont need a bigger map sensor for the afc to idle fine with 450's.....thats for sure

ifly87 10-20-2006 05:02 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
Originally Posted by xX98CivicCpeXx
guess I'll learn how to use crome then
You are OBD2, you cant use crome u dumbass, you dont have much of a choice you are most likely going to have to use an AFC or VAFC, if you want to do somthing better than just "retarding the dizzy" you should look into that thing MSD sells, it retards timing per pound of boost.

0b00st0 10-20-2006 05:43 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
Originally Posted by TiCaL
i disagree!! 450's with an afc should idle fine w/o a bigger map sensor....mine did with no problems and most people that have ran the afc should say the same. you dont need a bigger map sensor for the afc to idle fine with 450's.....thats for sure
Isn't the max that you can take out of the pulse with the VAFC 40%. That's going to be really rich. Maybe the O2 correction will care of some more, but it's still going to be rich.

FooK 10-20-2006 06:02 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
nah engine management is totally optional...just get a lighter and a squirt bottle.

xX98CivicCpeXx 10-20-2006 07:36 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
Originally Posted by ifly87
You are OBD2, you cant use crome u dumbass, you dont have much of a choice you are most likely going to have to use an AFC or VAFC, if you want to do somthing better than just "retarding the dizzy" you should look into that thing MSD sells, it retards timing per pound of boost.


Anyway, I'm gonna go with the S-AFC now and am gonna use RC or Lucas 440cc's. DSM 450's(low impedence) give you bad idle. Screw MSD, i aint paying for something I can do myself

baker_jeff 10-20-2006 07:48 PM
Re: Will I even Need Engine Management
 
It'll be fine on 8psi. Be sure to always carry a camera in your glove box.


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