using a pretuned map !!
03-30-2005, 06:25 AM
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Re: using a pretuned map !!
because you do 
no set up, engine, tune is exactly the same. i have a perfect example of this! i have a 00 si with stock b16 and had a good tune for my turbo set up, a little aggressive, but that's how i like it. the guy i sold my turbo kit to bought everything from me except the intercooler and he had a 00 si with stock b16 as well. ok, so you think, same exact car/engine, same exact turbo set up, just a slightly smaller intercooler, should be able to use the same map right? well, the map i was running 13-15 psi with on my engine, broke 3 out of 4 of his ring lands on 8 psi 
you can use someones tuned map to get started, but don't assume you will have the same a/f ratio, charge temps, etc. someone elses tuned map is still just a basemap to you. yeah, you can run it for as long as you want if it runs good, but how could you drive a boosted car around and not know what your charge temps or a/f ratio looks like and still be able to sleep at night? i know i couldn't :P
no set up, engine, tune is exactly the same. i have a perfect example of this! i have a 00 si with stock b16 and had a good tune for my turbo set up, a little aggressive, but that's how i like it. the guy i sold my turbo kit to bought everything from me except the intercooler and he had a 00 si with stock b16 as well. ok, so you think, same exact car/engine, same exact turbo set up, just a slightly smaller intercooler, should be able to use the same map right? well, the map i was running 13-15 psi with on my engine, broke 3 out of 4 of his ring lands on 8 psi you can use someones tuned map to get started, but don't assume you will have the same a/f ratio, charge temps, etc. someone elses tuned map is still just a basemap to you. yeah, you can run it for as long as you want if it runs good, but how could you drive a boosted car around and not know what your charge temps or a/f ratio looks like and still be able to sleep at night? i know i couldn't :P
03-30-2005, 09:13 AM
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Re: using a pretuned map !!
Originally Posted by projekteg
because you do no set up, engine, tune is exactly the same. i have a perfect example of this! i have a 00 si with stock b16 and had a good tune for my turbo set up, a little aggressive, but that's how i like it. the guy i sold my turbo kit to bought everything from me except the intercooler and he had a 00 si with stock b16 as well. ok, so you think, same exact car/engine, same exact turbo set up, just a slightly smaller intercooler, should be able to use the same map right? well, the map i was running 13-15 psi with on my engine, broke 3 out of 4 of his ring lands on 8 psi you can use someones tuned map to get started, but don't assume you will have the same a/f ratio, charge temps, etc. someone elses tuned map is still just a basemap to you. yeah, you can run it for as long as you want if it runs good, but how could you drive a boosted car around and not know what your charge temps or a/f ratio looks like and still be able to sleep at night? i know i couldn't :P
no set up, engine, tune is exactly the same. i have a perfect example of this! i have a 00 si with stock b16 and had a good tune for my turbo set up, a little aggressive, but that's how i like it. the guy i sold my turbo kit to bought everything from me except the intercooler and he had a 00 si with stock b16 as well. ok, so you think, same exact car/engine, same exact turbo set up, just a slightly smaller intercooler, should be able to use the same map right? well, the map i was running 13-15 psi with on my engine, broke 3 out of 4 of his ring lands on 8 psi you can use someones tuned map to get started, but don't assume you will have the same a/f ratio, charge temps, etc. someone elses tuned map is still just a basemap to you. yeah, you can run it for as long as you want if it runs good, but how could you drive a boosted car around and not know what your charge temps or a/f ratio looks like and still be able to sleep at night? i know i couldn't :P
03-30-2005, 10:15 AM
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Re: using a pretuned map !!
Originally Posted by mahmoud
why can i just use someone's bin file with the same setup !!
why do i have to tune my oun with a wb ? or a dyno ??
why do i have to tune my oun with a wb ? or a dyno ??
03-30-2005, 10:24 AM
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Re: using a pretuned map !!
Originally Posted by TurboEF9
..why don't you just go ahead and use someone else's perscription while you're at it. I mean, if you have the same thing, it'll react the same won't it? NO, YOU'LL DIE! AND SO WILL YOUR CAR!!!!!!!!!
03-30-2005, 10:32 AM
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Re: using a pretuned map !!
Originally Posted by TurboEF9
Originally Posted by mahmoud
why can i just use someone's bin file with the same setup !!
why do i have to tune my oun with a wb ? or a dyno ??
why do i have to tune my oun with a wb ? or a dyno ??
However, its ironic you say what you say though Parker...because Doctor's do this EVERY DAY. Give you a prescription based on a few symptoms. There's a SAT question for you...
Matching Tuned Map is to Motor Dying as Prescription Drugs are to ___?
03-30-2005, 10:58 AM
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Re: using a pretuned map !!
Originally Posted by xenocron
I am writing you a prescription for a chill pill :P
However, its ironic you say what you say though Parker...because Doctor's do this EVERY DAY. Give you a prescription based on a few symptoms. There's a SAT question for you...
Matching Tuned Map is to Motor Dying as Prescription Drugs are to ___?
However, its ironic you say what you say though Parker...because Doctor's do this EVERY DAY. Give you a prescription based on a few symptoms. There's a SAT question for you...
Matching Tuned Map is to Motor Dying as Prescription Drugs are to ___?
03-30-2005, 02:43 PM
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Re: using a pretuned map !!
Originally Posted by xenocron
Originally Posted by TurboEF9
Originally Posted by mahmoud
why can i just use someone's bin file with the same setup !!
why do i have to tune my oun with a wb ? or a dyno ??
why do i have to tune my oun with a wb ? or a dyno ??
However, its ironic you say what you say though Parker...because Doctor's do this EVERY DAY. Give you a prescription based on a few symptoms. There's a SAT question for you...
