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wdwalker 01-31-2005 05:41 PM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
okay some updates w/ pics to help u guys out... im hoping they'll clear a lot up for yaz.

first, my willem burner setup, am i doing it right having the paper clip to jump pin 3 to pin 31?
http://img164.exs.cx/img164/9577/willem17cx.jpg

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/1586/willemboard1of.jpg
here's what my burner is reading in the program
http://img164.exs.cx/img164/6489/burnprog2vm.jpg

next up, my soldering, i used a lot of flux to keep them clean and flowing, and did a lil more solder to ensure a good connection. all connections check out for conductivity. j1 is cut right now, i'm running on stock program.
http://img164.exs.cx/img164/2143/topboard5nw.jpg

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/4979/solder2cv.jpg

and on a separate note, just making sure- this is what my stock p06 maps (240cc) should look like right? when i scale it for 450s, these values are roughly halved. (im gonna get it working with 240's b4 i put 450s in there) using uberdata 1.66
http://img164.exs.cx/img164/6162/uberfuel7fj.jpg

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/6833/uberign3jy.jpg

wdwalker 01-31-2005 10:41 PM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
nobody knows how to fix this? :'(
but i can't check which cel it is, i installed a gsr gauge cluster and when i connect the pin to do the ecu code check, it stays a solid CEL... maybe cuz its an obd2 cluster wired up for obd1? i dunno...

projekteg 02-01-2005 06:30 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
how did you make your basemap? did you open the 'stock gsr' map, then import 'p06-import only' on top of that? then just uncheck 'knock sensor', anything with the word 'vtec' and check the 'vtp disable box'?? also, have you tried burning just the 'stock p06' .bin file without opening it in uberdata? it won't start the car b/c you have 450's in, but you should be able to turn the key to the 'acc' position to see if your cel goes away. if the cel goes away, you know there is just a mistake in the basemap you're trying to make in uber. if the cel is still present, you have some bad soldering somewhere, possibly burnt the 74hc chip when soldering it in, or are nto getting something right with your burner. set the board type to 'willem' in your software, i never use the 'pcb3' setting.

wdwalker 02-01-2005 07:52 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
yes, i burned the stock p06 and it still gave me a CEL... and i haven't put the 450's in yet, i'm waiting til i can get uberdata working right before i attempt that.

the way i was doing it was opening the "Stock LS.bin" and then importing p06 and clicking "p06.bin". i'm gonna try setting it to the willem pcb setting, do i still need to jump pin 3 to pin 31 with this setting?

wdwalker 02-01-2005 07:54 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
also, how do i get rid of the bog-down that happens when i try to rev it, people were telling me this is normal. is it just messing with the tps enrich? what values are good to use for this, currently it's set to 100. or is this just something that will go away when i get up to normal operating temperature?

projekteg 02-01-2005 08:03 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 

Originally Posted by wdwalker
yes, i burned the stock p06 and it still gave me a CEL... and i haven't put the 450's in yet, i'm waiting til i can get uberdata working right before i attempt that.


don't even open the p06 file in uberdata at all! go straight to the chip burner and load the 'p06' .bin from the uberdata directory WITHOUT EVEN OPENING IT IN UBERDATA. if that works, you know you're soldering and chip burning went good and you're doing something wrong in the uberdata problem.


Originally Posted by wdwalker
the way i was doing it was opening the "Stock LS.bin" and then importing p06 and clicking "p06.bin". i'm gonna try setting it to the willem pcb setting, do i still need to jump pin 3 to pin 31 with this setting?

use the gsr 'stock gsr' .bin like i said above, then import the 'p06-import only' on top of the gsr map and check and uncheck all the boxes like i said.


wdwalker 02-02-2005 08:44 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
tried burning stock p06 program without opening in uberdata, and doing the burner with the settings u use in your write-up (which is nice btw), using willem pcb setting instead of pcb3 and reversing the dip settings as u do in your write-up, still getting a solid CEL. i don't know what to do, i might just have to go get an afc and a missing link, as much as i hate to go that route... :'(
still only getting a solid light when connecting the OBD1 check circuit. doesnt even blink once to signify OBD1.

projekteg 02-02-2005 08:47 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
you're only getting the cel when jumping the service connector (blue plug)? and the car runs fine? it will be fine to run it, my boys ecu does that for some reason, i've never looked in to it, but i know it runs the car fine........ :D

wdwalker 02-02-2005 09:09 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
no, im getting a constant CEL, it's always on, and doesn't blink when i pin the service connector. also i've noticed that it drops about 500rpms when i try to rev it up, i've heard this is normal though(?). any way to get rid of this? otherwise it SEEMS to be running alright, i really don't wanna trust myself with the CEL coming on though. i wouldn't wanna put the injectors in and not have the right maps for it...

projekteg 02-02-2005 09:23 AM

Re:uberdata problem- bogging and cel
 
well, if you burnt the .bin without even opening it in uberdata, it's not a mistake you made in uberdata, and the fact that the car even starts up and runs with the chip implies that the burner has programmed the data on to the chip, you have no cel's when you cut j1 and return it to stock, so guess what that leaves?? you messed up soldering somewhere, no questions about it ;)


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