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beater 06-28-2005 10:06 AM

Re: TurboEDIT and DSM 450's running like stock?
 

Originally Posted by xenocron


No idea...I dont know if the column headings have changed at all or how drastically.

Come on now. You are supposed to be TurboEdit's lead support rep. You should know these things. ;D


Just kidding man. It seems like OBD0 is in another one of its lows. It was hot for a couple of months and now there is no action at all. Maybe I should learn how to code asm and help out. 8)

Chris Harris 06-29-2005 07:03 AM

Re: TurboEDIT and DSM 450's running like stock?
 

Originally Posted by julio_bOOstamante

Originally Posted by xenocron

Originally Posted by julio_bOOstamante
Ok i got it! ;D

so now the question is will the NG 55 Basemapper deluxe work along side NG60?

No idea...I dont know if the column headings have changed at all or how drastically.

so do you reommend we use th eother method of basemapping? the import export way???

No, I recommend you learn what the basemapper is actually doing so that you can make your own proper basemap.

The basemapper will probably work...but get a wideband on it ASAP and tune right away.

beater 06-29-2005 08:39 AM

Re: TurboEDIT and DSM 450's running like stock?
 
A little off-topic, but... What happened to the basemapper helper that had the fudge factor and boost maps. The basemapper on your web page has option for d or b-series and thats it. If one were to make a basemap with this, they would find out in a hurry that the map is going to be to lean (after converting to 450's in TE and creating boost maps in TE) since there is no fudge factor adjustment in TE. Well there is of sorts, you can just enrich the entire map by a percentage. Why the change?

And you say that he should learn how to use the basemapper. I am sure that there are people out there who are learning and new to this, and there is no documented procedure (or at least easy to find) so that people can use it properly. Just my 2 pennies.


-Nick

Chris Harris 06-29-2005 11:47 PM

Re: TurboEDIT and DSM 450's running like stock?
 
http://-------------/downloads.php?page=basemapper

The one on my site here:
http://-------------/downloads.php?page=basemapper

Certainly still has the 'tweak' factor built in... ???

As far as understanding...there is a lot of discussion on this on the PGMFI forums...

But basically...stock ROM (programs) have set rows (RPMS) and columns (Vacuum/Boost). The modified PGMFI code has expanded the number of columns and thus has changed what each column represent (in vacuum or boost)....so the 'grids' dont line up if you just try to copy and paste.

TurboEdit does its best to represent to the user what the actual value is on each column heading, but it aint exact by any stretch and the ECU does a lot of averaging and interpolation to figure out how much fuel to dump in each cylinder every 0.000000001 seconds.

So basically, the helper takes the stock maps and calculates the best possible approximation of what the stock maps would look like as NG.. series maps.

It also uses basic math to convert between different injector sizes and does ignition retard calculations...etc.

Help?

beater 06-30-2005 08:17 AM

Re: TurboEDIT and DSM 450's running like stock?
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
http://-------------/downloads.php?page=basemapper

The one on my site here:
http://-------------/downloads.php?page=basemapper

Certainly still has the 'tweak' factor built in... ???

As far as understanding...there is a lot of discussion on this on the PGMFI forums...

But basically...stock ROM (programs) have set rows (RPMS) and columns (Vacuum/Boost). The modified PGMFI code has expanded the number of columns and thus has changed what each column represent (in vacuum or boost)....so the 'grids' dont line up if you just try to copy and paste.

TurboEdit does its best to represent to the user what the actual value is on each column heading, but it aint exact by any stretch and the ECU does a lot of averaging and interpolation to figure out how much fuel to dump in each cylinder every 0.000000001 seconds.

So basically, the helper takes the stock maps and calculates the best possible approximation of what the stock maps would look like as NG.. series maps.

It also uses basic math to convert between different injector sizes and does ignition retard calculations...etc.

Help?

Good deal, that basemapper has it all. The basemapper link on the TE basemap instruction page is an older version without all of the options. (hxxp://www.-------------/downloads/NG55-BasemapHelper.xls)

As for your explination, that pretty much sums it up. For those that don't know, now you know.


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