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TurboEF9 11-18-2003 11:12 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
For use of external EEPROM, nope, just socket.

For datalogging, you have to assemble the MAX233A and install it in the ECU.

88crxSi 11-19-2003 08:29 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
the 90-91 si has a ps9!?!? I thought pm6 because they didnt come auto (right?)

TurboEF9 11-19-2003 10:35 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
Hrm, I could have sworn I've seen Si autos... Maybe I'm mistaken. Oh well, it did come form the 90-91 EX auto.

88crxSi 11-19-2003 11:34 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
who knows Jason. I know I haven't seen one. then again I have seen an auto 00SiR (Canada). What a damn waste.

bearboy80 11-21-2003 06:52 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
here are more dummie questions.

1) do i have to replace my stock o2 sensor with wideband sencor?
2) if #1 is true, how do i connect 02 sencor, wideband unit, and ECU all together?
3) is turbo edit just datalogging program? or it's program that regulate ARF like crome and plus datalogging feature?
4) turbo edit can see boost like uberdata?
5) urberdata have datalogging feature?

thanks for answers in advance.

redzcstandardhatch 11-22-2003 01:44 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
hey, i'm new to the ghettodyne thing, and i'm about to set it all up.......but i'm not running turbo, i'm running a high compression dohc zc w/cams and ITB's...i was wondering if i could use ghettodyne to run the ITB's(since my map sensor reading would be screwy...) and i obviously wouldnt need 450s, so could i use the factory obd0 injectors? thanks for any help...great thread guys

TurboEF9 11-25-2003 07:48 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 

Originally Posted by bearboy80
1) do i have to replace my stock o2 sensor with wideband sencor?
No.

2) if #1 is true, how do i connect 02 sencor, wideband unit, and ECU all together?
N/A

3) is turbo edit just datalogging program? or it's program that regulate ARF like crome and plus datalogging feature?
It's a full featured tuning program. Maps, Revs, Extra features, and Datalogging.

4) turbo edit can see boost like uberdata?
TurboEDIT is an editor, not a ROM. There are boost ROMs compatible with TurboEDIT that see boost. They are available on the website.

5) urberdata have datalogging feature?
Don't know, never used it. Try the thread labled "Uberteg Software" :-\


ShadowRex 11-25-2003 08:18 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
5 yes its in the software never used it though not going to anytime soon.

bearboy80 11-26-2003 04:59 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
so what's the difference b/w an editor and a rom?

TurboEF9 11-26-2003 06:25 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
The ROM stands for "Read Only Memory". This term is used identify the programming code used in the microcontrollers ROM. This code is what is physically run by the mircocontroller to make, in this instance, the car operate.

The editor is an external program (seperate from the car's programming) used to modify components of the ROM file.

Ghettodyne, and TurboEDIT are both editors that modify the PGMFI ROMs...

Make sense?

MikeJ-2009 11-26-2003 07:40 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
ahhh, more questions lately.

1. The horizontal column is associated with the pressure on the map sensor? and the vertical is the rpm column.

2. What exactly do the numbers at any given intersection stand for? Is this injector pulse widths or something?

-Stealthmode (Still learning) ;)

TurboEF9 11-26-2003 10:10 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
1. The horizontal column is associated with the pressure on the map sensor? and the vertical is the rpm column.
Yes.

2. What exactly do the numbers at any given intersection stand for? Is this injector pulse widths or something?
Ignition table is degrees BTDC (Before Top Dead Center). Fuel Tables are pulse duration in milliseconds.


MikeJ-2009 11-27-2003 12:36 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
See, I am learning. I love this. 8)

I am working on the budget to get that ps9 to you. I haven't flaked. :P

Thanks for the help.

88crxSi 11-27-2003 12:59 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
Since I will be using TE aswell when the time comes...

ok.. for an AFC.. if you run say -38 and its still to lean you go to -36 and so on. for TE what is an acceptable change? .2 ? what? some examples would be bitchin ;)

anthony88 11-27-2003 08:41 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
i got a hold of a smc dual i want to know if i can still use your boost retard and launch control

TurboEF9 11-28-2003 12:17 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 

Originally Posted by crx88Si
ok.. for an AFC.. if you run say -38 and its still to lean you go to -36 and so on. for TE what is an acceptable change? .2 ? what? some examples would be bitchin ;)

Normally, you increase/decrease by 3% of the initial value to get a noticable change.

88crxSi 11-28-2003 08:11 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
is there a function that increases the entire map by 3 %?

like..

Enter Change: ____ % ?

TurboEF9 11-28-2003 10:16 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
Ya.. you use the Region Editing.

Highlight the part of the map you want to modify (in this case, the whole thing), right-click, then click Edit Region.

To increase by 3%, just type 3 in the percent box and press OK.

To decrease by 3%, just type -3 in the percent box, and press OK.

Same goes with the other options in the region edit.

88crxSi 11-28-2003 12:40 PM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
kick ass! ;)

mOrEbOOst 11-30-2003 01:46 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
ok, so with the georgehack bin, since it retards 1deg/psi, in order to make it 0.5deg/psi i need to put -.5 as the value? TIA

TurboEF9 11-30-2003 01:55 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
I'm not sure Joseph's calculations on that ROM on how he got the 1 degree, but he did it to a stock PM6 ignition map.

..I would personally import a stock ignition map, and then retard .5 degrees.

But, if you wanted to, theoretically, you would add -.5 in the boost retard function.

ShadowRex 11-30-2003 09:32 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
Ok Lets try another thing now. Since I have talked to you about this. I have a DOHC ZC I was boosted its winter in ohio and now I am not boosted because of winter lol.

So I went and found myself a pm7zc org bin. I opened it in turbo edit.

Well I liked this Agrresive tune i found (on your site yer tune hehe)

So I imported it into the pm7 org bin.

Ok so now I am running 450cc injectors in this motor. So I did a rescale of -46% thru the whole map (this is where i think i keep screwing up.) So i looked at the new numbers and OH MY is it lean. Where do i keep going wrong?

TurboEF9 11-30-2003 10:40 AM

Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
 
Of course it's going to look lean.. but you have to remember.. 450s flow 46% more fuel over 240cc (ding ding magic 46% number!!)

So at 2ms, 450cc will flow 46% more fuel at that same duration than 240s.

You have an a/f gauge? ..just try it.. take it esay, and look

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Oh ya.. don'tforget to add .25 to the first column, decrease by .02 for each column..

For example, .25 on the first column, .23 added to the second column, .21 for the third.. and so on.

You may even decrement by .3
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