turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
10-06-2003, 08:56 PM
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turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
from what i have read all you do is find a pgmfi ecu and have it socketed, buy a chip burner ,download files from the internet and then upload the files onto the chip and then plug&play can somebody corect me if im wrong
its like an old nintendo different chips for different programs
questions i have
1.how much does it cost to have an ecu socketed and what is the turnaround time
2.i have an88civic with a dpfi/mpfi swaprun by a pr4 do i have to buy a pm6 (i also have a pm8 almost usless just good enough to run car when i send pr4 out for service)
3. will one chip fit a pr4 and a pm6
4. what chips are available(all-motor boost retard ect..)
i have 1g dsm blue tops no turbo(yet)
5.if i get a laptop can i make adjustments at the track(boost retard,launch control, rev-limit,fuel enrichment/injector control for idle with dsm 450's)
its like an old nintendo different chips for different programs
questions i have
1.how much does it cost to have an ecu socketed and what is the turnaround time
2.i have an88civic with a dpfi/mpfi swaprun by a pr4 do i have to buy a pm6 (i also have a pm8 almost usless just good enough to run car when i send pr4 out for service)
3. will one chip fit a pr4 and a pm6
4. what chips are available(all-motor boost retard ect..)
i have 1g dsm blue tops no turbo(yet)
5.if i get a laptop can i make adjustments at the track(boost retard,launch control, rev-limit,fuel enrichment/injector control for idle with dsm 450's)
10-06-2003, 10:51 PM
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Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
1) a PR4 or PM6, not a lot... turn around time depends who you get it done by..
2) you dont need a pm6, a pr4 is good
3) yes one chip will fit both ecu's
4) Boost + ignition and an all motor bins you can make your own
5)yup, u need a chip burner, laptop, chips, and like 5 minutes for adjustments.
2) you dont need a pm6, a pr4 is good
3) yes one chip will fit both ecu's
4) Boost + ignition and an all motor bins you can make your own
5)yup, u need a chip burner, laptop, chips, and like 5 minutes for adjustments.
10-07-2003, 01:25 PM
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Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
Originally Posted by anthony88
To elaborate a bit..
1.how much does it cost to have an ecu socketed and what is the turnaround time
I charge $40 shipped. I chip it the day I get it, and ship it out next day, 2nd Day Air. I have personally chipped both of ASM's ECUs, and I'm also doing his datalogging upgrade. He can vouch for my work..
2.i have an88civic with a dpfi/mpfi swaprun by a pr4 do i have to buy a pm6 (i also have a pm8 almost usless just good enough to run car when i send pr4 out for service)
Whoa, if you're running a stock PR4 you're running insanely rich. You do not have to buy a PM6. GhD doens't support PR4, but TurboEDIT does (http://www.TurboEDIT.org). You can also run PM6 code on a PR4, but your pinout is different. The placement of your ELD sensor wire will cause your idle to run high. You'll probably also throw code 20. Better off just using TurboEDIT with your exiting PR4 ROM.
3. will one chip fit a pr4 and a pm6
[b[Yes. The same chips fit all of the external EEPROMs. OBD0 and OBD1.[/b]
4. what chips are available(all-motor boost retard ect..)
i have 1g dsm blue tops no turbo(yet)
TurboEDIT has Map Import/Export, so base tunes can be shared between users. There is a growing Map Library on the TurboEDIT website. There you should be able to find a tune to fit your need. If not, I can create a base tune for you and you can import it into your ROM, and you can fine tune from there.
5.if i get a laptop can i make adjustments at the track(boost retard,launch control, rev-limit,fuel enrichment/injector control for idle with dsm 450's)
Yes, but as of now, you need your burner with you. In the future, PGMFI is working towards real-time programmability (RTP). When this is available, TurboEDIT will support it.
1.how much does it cost to have an ecu socketed and what is the turnaround time
I charge $40 shipped. I chip it the day I get it, and ship it out next day, 2nd Day Air. I have personally chipped both of ASM's ECUs, and I'm also doing his datalogging upgrade. He can vouch for my work..
2.i have an88civic with a dpfi/mpfi swaprun by a pr4 do i have to buy a pm6 (i also have a pm8 almost usless just good enough to run car when i send pr4 out for service)
Whoa, if you're running a stock PR4 you're running insanely rich. You do not have to buy a PM6. GhD doens't support PR4, but TurboEDIT does (http://www.TurboEDIT.org). You can also run PM6 code on a PR4, but your pinout is different. The placement of your ELD sensor wire will cause your idle to run high. You'll probably also throw code 20. Better off just using TurboEDIT with your exiting PR4 ROM.
3. will one chip fit a pr4 and a pm6
[b[Yes. The same chips fit all of the external EEPROMs. OBD0 and OBD1.[/b]
4. what chips are available(all-motor boost retard ect..)
i have 1g dsm blue tops no turbo(yet)
TurboEDIT has Map Import/Export, so base tunes can be shared between users. There is a growing Map Library on the TurboEDIT website. There you should be able to find a tune to fit your need. If not, I can create a base tune for you and you can import it into your ROM, and you can fine tune from there.
5.if i get a laptop can i make adjustments at the track(boost retard,launch control, rev-limit,fuel enrichment/injector control for idle with dsm 450's)
Yes, but as of now, you need your burner with you. In the future, PGMFI is working towards real-time programmability (RTP). When this is available, TurboEDIT will support it.
10-10-2003, 10:07 AM
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Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
I'm still working on it. It's not a problem to code. I could have it done in a few hours, the problem is, I don't have a car to test in.
Asking my friends to hang around my house while I play with cars gets veyr old very soon. Hopefully, this weekend I'll have another motor in my Civic and I can finish the datalogger.
As version 1.18 sits now, it's logging perfectly, just, the data needs to be converted into "human readable" data.
I'm also planning to save to a datalog file, and let the user "playback" thier run in TurboEDIT. This will allow users to see what was actually going on while thier car was running. If they don't happen to be staring at the portable.
Asking my friends to hang around my house while I play with cars gets veyr old very soon. Hopefully, this weekend I'll have another motor in my Civic and I can finish the datalogger.
As version 1.18 sits now, it's logging perfectly, just, the data needs to be converted into "human readable" data.
I'm also planning to save to a datalog file, and let the user "playback" thier run in TurboEDIT. This will allow users to see what was actually going on while thier car was running. If they don't happen to be staring at the portable.
10-12-2003, 01:58 AM
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Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
I'm at that stage where I really need to decide about tuning. This turboedit sounds so good, but is very confusing to me since I've never taken my ecu apart before.(Also not familiar with the parts/terms) I hate to be ignorant and get a vafc just because I didn't know what was going on. 
I'll be running a d16y8 in my 89 hf hooking the motor up to obd0. Does turbo edit support the vtec activation for something like this?
(My Curiousity is still with this turbo edit)
I'll be running a d16y8 in my 89 hf hooking the motor up to obd0. Does turbo edit support the vtec activation for something like this?
(My Curiousity is still with this turbo edit)
10-12-2003, 10:38 AM
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Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
As far as hardware goes, with OBD0 you basically just need to solder in a 28-pin ZIF socket. If you're uncomfortable with this, I do provide a "chipping" service. Just e-mail me and I can give prices and such (jparker@driftkids.com).
As for VTec, muahahah. Dave Blundell's 1wire VTec code is supported in the development PGMFI ROM. However, I haven't publiclly released that version of TE.
I might do that next weekend since I got a PS9 and I'll get to do more testing. Anyway, ya.. TE supports 1wire VTec for OBD0.
As for VTec, muahahah. Dave Blundell's 1wire VTec code is supported in the development PGMFI ROM. However, I haven't publiclly released that version of TE.
I might do that next weekend since I got a PS9 and I'll get to do more testing. Anyway, ya.. TE supports 1wire VTec for OBD0.
10-13-2003, 01:11 AM
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Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
Well depending on what you want, I can chip and or build your MAX233A (email me for pricing).
Otherwise, if you feel you can do it, it shouldn't cost you more than $30 in parts, and an hour in labor.
Otherwise, if you feel you can do it, it shouldn't cost you more than $30 in parts, and an hour in labor.
10-13-2003, 10:56 PM
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Re:turbo edit/ghettodyne for dummies
Yeah, I definately would have someone experienced do my ecu. I've already downloaded the program just to get an idea on what its like. It seems like it would be perfect for my setup, but I'm still a little worried about the tuning part of it. I'm not a complete moron, it's just that the tuning part isn't something I would be happy about trial and errer'ing it. I'll have to keep looking into it, but if it's got some crazy values that don't closely relate to what Im trying to do (a/f in some type of foriegn code ) I'm gonna be hesitant.
) I'm gonna be hesitant.
