for tuners.. i was wondering..
12-11-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
3.5 yrs ago, afc hack, techedge wideband, and long stretches of road. came out great, 169whp @ 7psi on y7 w/ 13t.
now...same engine and setup, but using cromepro @ 10psi pushing 206whp.
only one major catastrophe in 3 years on the dyno (shattered sleeve)...well two, but i don't take responsibility for the other since the person wrenching on the cams didn't realize each mark was 2* and moved them 6* instead of 3* after i suggested not to adjust the cams because we didn't know how much clearance there was before piston/valve contact. needless to say there was contact.
now...same engine and setup, but using cromepro @ 10psi pushing 206whp.
only one major catastrophe in 3 years on the dyno (shattered sleeve)...well two, but i don't take responsibility for the other since the person wrenching on the cams didn't realize each mark was 2* and moved them 6* instead of 3* after i suggested not to adjust the cams because we didn't know how much clearance there was before piston/valve contact. needless to say there was contact.
12-13-2006, 12:44 AM
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
I whipped up a crome basemap for my d15b7 with a t25. Let's just say a few negatives added up and it blew up.....way too soon.
My wg actuator ended up being frozen so i was hitting upwards of 12 psi
I forgot to put in colder plugs ( :1 :1 :1)
and I wish I would've done a better job adjusting my z6 map for a smoother transition to boost (because boost tools can only be imported from a p30 map in crome)
It would bog like a bitch when i'd tip into boost. There are my nuggets of wisdom.
Number one tuning tip!!!! When you first make a thread about your setup, post **** to please the hmt gods. Lack of this on my part has also been accredited as a cause of my motor failure.
My wg actuator ended up being frozen so i was hitting upwards of 12 psi
I forgot to put in colder plugs ( :1 :1 :1)
and I wish I would've done a better job adjusting my z6 map for a smoother transition to boost (because boost tools can only be imported from a p30 map in crome)
It would bog like a bitch when i'd tip into boost. There are my nuggets of wisdom.
Number one tuning tip!!!! When you first make a thread about your setup, post **** to please the hmt gods. Lack of this on my part has also been accredited as a cause of my motor failure.
12-13-2006, 04:18 PM
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
Originally Posted by Walter
mm interest info...what happen if you tune a car and just blow it? u need to pay for it? 
??Typically yes you need a new motor.......is that what you're asking?
12-13-2006, 04:54 PM
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
Well Walter it depends on what you the tuner and the owner of the car agreed upon before you tuned the car. Was their a contract made that said if you damage his property that you will replace it.
Or did you say look dude I don't have any experiance at this I can try to tune your car.
Fault not walters if blow engine :P
Or did you say look dude I don't have any experiance at this I can try to tune your car.
Fault not walters if blow engine :P
12-14-2006, 10:13 PM
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
typically if you're tuning a car for someone it would be assumed you have experience. if you're at a dyno shop a tuner will/should have you sign a damage waiver stating you are the owner or owners agent and are aware that the car/motor will be put through stress while testing. signing the waiver acknowledges this and also releases the shop and tuner from any damage that may occur.
a damaged/blown motor can occur for a number of reasons and isn't always related to the tune, but a combination of things (mechanical, tune, etc) up to/including the tune.
some people call this the pop-it waiver. i won't tune a car w/o the owner signing a waiver. unfortuneately, too many honda/acura performance cars are put together on a shoestring budget and not always correctly (if you know what i mean).
a damaged/blown motor can occur for a number of reasons and isn't always related to the tune, but a combination of things (mechanical, tune, etc) up to/including the tune.
some people call this the pop-it waiver. i won't tune a car w/o the owner signing a waiver. unfortuneately, too many honda/acura performance cars are put together on a shoestring budget and not always correctly (if you know what i mean).
12-18-2006, 08:46 PM
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
first car i tuned is my current gsr runs great just took some practice for me to get the hang of it. i use uberdata and borrow a friends wideband when it needs to be retuned (im a poor bastard 
). chipped my own ecu and read through way too much ---- on the forums to get the job done. done some minor tuning for some friends now as well. satiisfying when you get it done.
). chipped my own ecu and read through way too much ---- on the forums to get the job done. done some minor tuning for some friends now as well. satiisfying when you get it done.
