for tuners.. i was wondering..
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
3.5 yrs ago, afc hack, techedge wideband, and long stretches of road. came out great, 169whp @ 7psi on y7 w/ 13t.
now...same engine and setup, but using cromepro @ 10psi pushing 206whp.
only one major catastrophe in 3 years on the dyno (shattered sleeve)...well two, but i don't take responsibility for the other since the person wrenching on the cams didn't realize each mark was 2* and moved them 6* instead of 3* after i suggested not to adjust the cams because we didn't know how much clearance there was before piston/valve contact. needless to say there was contact.
now...same engine and setup, but using cromepro @ 10psi pushing 206whp.
only one major catastrophe in 3 years on the dyno (shattered sleeve)...well two, but i don't take responsibility for the other since the person wrenching on the cams didn't realize each mark was 2* and moved them 6* instead of 3* after i suggested not to adjust the cams because we didn't know how much clearance there was before piston/valve contact. needless to say there was contact.
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
I whipped up a crome basemap for my d15b7 with a t25. Let's just say a few negatives added up and it blew up.....way too soon.
My wg actuator ended up being frozen so i was hitting upwards of 12 psi
I forgot to put in colder plugs ( :1 :1 :1)
and I wish I would've done a better job adjusting my z6 map for a smoother transition to boost (because boost tools can only be imported from a p30 map in crome)
It would bog like a bitch when i'd tip into boost. There are my nuggets of wisdom.
Number one tuning tip!!!! When you first make a thread about your setup, post **** to please the hmt gods. Lack of this on my part has also been accredited as a cause of my motor failure.
My wg actuator ended up being frozen so i was hitting upwards of 12 psi
I forgot to put in colder plugs ( :1 :1 :1)
and I wish I would've done a better job adjusting my z6 map for a smoother transition to boost (because boost tools can only be imported from a p30 map in crome)
It would bog like a bitch when i'd tip into boost. There are my nuggets of wisdom.
Number one tuning tip!!!! When you first make a thread about your setup, post **** to please the hmt gods. Lack of this on my part has also been accredited as a cause of my motor failure.
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
Originally Posted by Walter
mm interest info...what happen if you tune a car and just blow it? u need to pay for it?
Typically yes you need a new motor.......is that what you're asking?
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
Well Walter it depends on what you the tuner and the owner of the car agreed upon before you tuned the car. Was their a contract made that said if you damage his property that you will replace it.
Or did you say look dude I don't have any experiance at this I can try to tune your car.
Fault not walters if blow engine :P
Or did you say look dude I don't have any experiance at this I can try to tune your car.
Fault not walters if blow engine :P
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
typically if you're tuning a car for someone it would be assumed you have experience. if you're at a dyno shop a tuner will/should have you sign a damage waiver stating you are the owner or owners agent and are aware that the car/motor will be put through stress while testing. signing the waiver acknowledges this and also releases the shop and tuner from any damage that may occur.
a damaged/blown motor can occur for a number of reasons and isn't always related to the tune, but a combination of things (mechanical, tune, etc) up to/including the tune.
some people call this the pop-it waiver. i won't tune a car w/o the owner signing a waiver. unfortuneately, too many honda/acura performance cars are put together on a shoestring budget and not always correctly (if you know what i mean).
a damaged/blown motor can occur for a number of reasons and isn't always related to the tune, but a combination of things (mechanical, tune, etc) up to/including the tune.
some people call this the pop-it waiver. i won't tune a car w/o the owner signing a waiver. unfortuneately, too many honda/acura performance cars are put together on a shoestring budget and not always correctly (if you know what i mean).
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Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
first car i tuned is my current gsr runs great just took some practice for me to get the hang of it. i use uberdata and borrow a friends wideband when it needs to be retuned (im a poor bastard ). chipped my own ecu and read through way too much ---- on the forums to get the job done. done some minor tuning for some friends now as well. satiisfying when you get it done.