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ososlohatch 02-15-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
MADMAX, I've been stuffing Motorola 2.5 bar into OBD1/2 enclosures for a while now. Thanks for ruining my #1 method of taking money from high dollar riceboys at the streetraces - previously, they thought I was running a stock MAP "and could only be making xxx whp."

Well, it was a nice thing while it lasted. :'(

good work, maybe some day ill upgrade from my check valves from pet smart, ricer's with hondata love my hack plus check valve setups :y

HiProfile 02-16-2007 03:20 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
MADMAX, I've been stuffing Motorola 2.5 bar into OBD1/2 enclosures for a while now. Thanks for ruining my #1 method of taking money from high dollar riceboys at the streetraces - previously, they thought I was running a stock MAP "and could only be making xxx whp."

Well, it was a nice thing while it lasted. :'(

I think you're still safe though. Rice boys usually get sniffed out & exiled from this sight rather quickly. Well, most do. You're still here >:D

Tom-Guy 02-16-2007 05:33 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
Ass!

ososlohatch 02-17-2007 02:02 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by HiProfile
I think you're still safe though. Rice boys usually get sniffed out & exiled from this sight rather quickly. Well, most do. You're still here >:D

lol true but rice boys come here and steal all the good secrets .. and aren't even members, booo

blundar 02-18-2007 08:28 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
400 of the boards you saw pictured in xenocron's post above will be here in the first week of march, depending on shipping times. Final pricing has not been finalized on kits, but bare boards (i.e. you supply the MAP sensor, wiring/connector, optional 0603 capacitors, recomended waterproof epoxy, etc.) should be around $10 including domestic US shipping.

Chris or I will keep everyone updated as we finalize details. ;D

0b00st0 02-19-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by RENR
so it just sits in there "free floating"? or is it glued down to something? what settings do you select in crome for the 4 bar? i dont see it listed


Sorry Rene, I've been away this past week.


It's not free-floating. The inside is filled up with plastic epoxy.




moak89 03-01-2007 05:49 PM

Re: 2.5 BAR and 3 BAR MAP Sensor Mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by moak89
nicee.
if we install that 3bar then what values are we suppose to use in crome? :S

BUMPP. i got the 4bar MPXH6300AC6U ( 3 bar positive). i wanted to know what values would have to set in crome to make this sensor work properly?


Originally Posted by HiProfile
You have to use Boost Tools to select custom sensor, then input the values. IIRC the 4bar is 200 to 4000 mbar, the 3bar is 200 to 3040 mbar, etc. Then you have to move the columns around & retune a bit, or at least I haven't played around enough to have it do it for me.

@hiprofile: why is it 200-3040 for a 3bar?

moak89 03-01-2007 06:04 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
well i set the min to 200 and the max to 3040. but crome is giving me some kind of script error :S
???

blundar 03-02-2007 10:11 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
you guys need to learn how to read datasheets and do math. RTFM FTW!!!

HMTdmc 03-02-2007 01:41 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
Won't the data sheet tell you the voltage slope ?

0b00st0 03-02-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by blundar
you guys need to learn how to read datasheets and do math. RTFM FTW!!!


Don't you mean RTFD, Dave.


When are you and Chris gonna release your replacement sensors?



Chris Harris 03-02-2007 11:57 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
Well the Chinese New Year has screwed up getting quotes on the molds and none of Freescale's distributors stock any of the sensors we want unfortunately...so they are months out on lead times :(

racepak 03-18-2007 06:57 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
lil somthing i made for two friends....
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...k/IMG_4862.jpg


0b00st0 03-18-2007 07:02 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 


Looks really good. What's in them?



racepak 03-18-2007 02:33 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by MADMAX

Looks really good. What's in them?



thanks...
they are 2.5

Tom-Guy 03-18-2007 04:44 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
That makes for a clean engine bay, racepak. Good work.

Chris Harris 03-18-2007 11:11 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
I like the looks of the enclosure!

racepak 03-19-2007 02:53 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
I like the looks of the enclosure!

i can get you these..... they cost like $1 each.

Cray91 03-19-2007 03:13 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
That makes for a clean engine bay, racepak. Good work.

I was planning on doing something like this. Just leave the TB mounted sensor alone, hell even leave the plug and a foot of wire on it to give that stock look.

Where did you get the enclosures from? I was thinking about using a 2AA battery pack from radioshack

racepak 03-19-2007 12:26 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by Cray91

Where did you get the enclosures from? I was thinking about using a 2AA battery pack from radioshack

well... i'm from israel. i got them in a local electronics shop.

Chris Harris 03-19-2007 09:43 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
Map Sensor boards are in and done...I have to take some pics but the pricing will be (1) for $10 shipped or (5) for $30 shipped. This is boards only...as soon as I can get some sensors in stock there will be full kits available. Hopefully soon thereafter, plug and play enclosures 8)

Guy-Fast 03-19-2007 10:07 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
Map Sensor boards are in and done...I have to take some pics but the pricing will be (1) for $10 shipped or (5) for $30 shipped. This is boards only...as soon as I can get some sensors in stock there will be full kits available. Hopefully soon thereafter, plug and play enclosures 8)

sweet

99cvc 03-20-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
i got the 3bar and which of the 4 pins do you solder the wires to? can someone post up pics if possible...

HMTguy 03-20-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by 99cvc
i got the 3bar and which of the 4 pins do you solder the wires to? can someone post up pics if possible...

http://www.-------------/install/25map.htm

This is for the 2.5 bar

0b00st0 03-20-2007 10:12 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by 99cvc
i got the 3bar and which of the 4 pins do you solder the wires to? can someone post up pics if possible...


I posted a pinout diagram on the first page.



Chris Harris 03-21-2007 11:03 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
http://www.-------------/boards.htm

Boards will come with basic instructions.

HiProfile 03-22-2007 01:17 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
I think if you sell them only with sensors installed, you'll get less people 'testing' sensors out and more people buying them.

Chris Harris 03-23-2007 08:27 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by HiProfile
I think if you sell them only with sensors installed, you'll get less people 'testing' sensors out and more people buying them.

I will eventually and I am almost at the final stages of getting a complete mold and sensor done as well. If anyone had these in stock (in the qtys i want)...we would be gravy :)

EG-prince 04-19-2007 08:28 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
I will eventually and I am almost at the final stages of getting a complete mold and sensor done as well. If anyone had these in stock (in the qtys i want)...we would be gravy :)

back from the dead... any progress xeno?

Chris Harris 04-19-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
Yes I have the boards and a few sensors in stock...trying to come up with $40k to have the stock replacement 4 Bar MAP Sensors mass produced.

Anyone want in on a good investment opportunity? 8)

Tom-Guy 04-19-2007 11:57 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
I have fifty I can loan you til the first of the month.

EG-prince 04-20-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
I'll chip in $20 toward the supplytheworldwith4barmapsensors fund. Do you think theres enough sales/interest to justify a $40,000 investment in them?

Chris Harris 04-20-2007 12:57 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by EGgyLShatch
I'll chip in $20 toward the supplytheworldwith4barmapsensors fund. Do you think theres enough sales/interest to justify a $40,000 investment in them?

I do...

Slo_crx1 04-20-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
I do...

I might be interested in this investment. How many are we talking here in mass production?

Chris Harris 04-20-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
If you are seriously interested, email me.

Tom-Guy 04-20-2007 01:52 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
Chris is a win-win businessman, completely in touch with his chosen market and conversant with everything required to bring a well developed product to market... and sell the piss out of it.

Anybody with a couple thousand in the bank should talk to Chris about a return on investing it.


gen4acclude 04-20-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Chris is a win-win businessman, completely in touch with his chosen market and conversant with everything required to bring a well developed product to market... and sell the piss out of it.

Anybody with a couple thousand in the bank should talk to Chris about a return on investing it.


i would but hay im hated and everyone wants me banned so what ever, really hate how people act toward others here that dont know them

Chris Harris 04-20-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

Originally Posted by gen4acclude
i would but hay im hated and everyone wants me banned so what ever, really hate how people act toward others here that dont know them

i dont think i have ever done any hating on you...

business is business and money is money

99cvc 05-23-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 
how did you guys open the stock map sensor? did you guys cut it?

0b00st0 05-23-2007 02:13 PM

Re: Motorola (Freescale) 2.5 BAR and 4 BAR map sensor mods (56k....thumbnails)
 

The firewall MAP sensor was cut open.


For the TB mounted one you have to drill out the rivets or drill off one side. Then the bottom just pops right off like a cover. Then you have to drill outo of dig out the old MAP sensor from the case and find the three leads.





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